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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostDifferent is a vast understatement.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostHuman BEING, seer. It has to be a person to qualify as a being. Under construction or sitting on the launch pad is not the same thing.
Imbued with spirit means air breathing. When it breathes it is a being.
You do know that neither American law nor Scripture support this nonsense, right?"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostYou do know that neither American law nor Scripture support this nonsense, right?Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostThe very beginning of the article here http://www.tektonics.org/af/abortion01.php :
I do not see how abortion does not fall under that sort of category.
Naw, I got nothing..."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYou know he's trolling, right?"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by seer View PostI spoke to Bnonn about this. Self defense would fall under a civil action since it is acceptable by law. So it would not be strictly personal since it would be unjust (by law) for someone to attempt to take your life.
I suspect to make it work he should consider abandoning 'personal' and using 'just'."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostYou do know that neither American law nor Scripture support this nonsense, right?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostHere's a related question, for pro-choicers or whoever would like to attempt an answer: why should I believe that human non-persons exist?“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
I suspect to make it work he should consider abandoning 'personal' and using 'just'.
Yes, I like that. So can we make the syllogism logically bulletproof?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostThe very beginning of the article here http://www.tektonics.org/af/abortion01.php :
I do not see how abortion does not fall under that sort of category.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYou do know that is actually the Judaic interpretation, right? So apparently at least the OT supports this position, though I have to admit, I'm just citing what rabbinical thought reflects. I do not claim to be an OT expert. I'm assuming rabbinical scholars are.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post*A* Judaic interpretation. Rabbinical thought is not dogmatic, but speculative. The early church considered abortion to be murder, in stark contrast to the Hellenistic/Roman culture around it; thus they could only have come to that conclusion from their Jewish heritage - one earlier than the rabbinic period.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostHuman BEING, seer. It has to be a person to qualify as a being. Under construction or sitting on the launch pad is not the same thing.
Imbued with spirit means air breathing. When it breathes it is a being.
person
n. 1) a human being.
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human being
noun
1. any individual of the genus Homo, especially a member of the species Homo sapiens.
2. a person, especially as distinguished from other animals
A fetus is a human being. A human being is a person. Pretty simple FF.
Nothing about breathing.
Do you stop being a human being if you hold your breath?
What about divers who use oxygenated perfluorocarbon liquid while underwater? Are they still human?
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