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Originally posted by Cow Poke
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And yes, Trump is a boob
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Trump is not exactly the first president to bring prisoners home, CP...
And yes, Trump is a boob
The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
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No fooling - and you can stuff the condescension. Fact is, though, he didn't have to trade a bunch of high value terrorists for them, and they were actually loyal American citizens (of Korean descent).Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
About time you agree with me on something.And yes, Trump is a boob
I swear, Trump could raise MLK from the dead, and you pinko commie liberals would scream "why didn't he do that as a CANDIDATE!"The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Condescension?Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
You guys pretty consistently attribute attitudes to me that I simply don't have...
That's not the first time that has happened either....Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostFact is, though, he didn't have to trade a bunch of high value terrorists for them, and they were actually loyal American citizens (of Korean descent).
Well - if you didn't so consistently say stupid things, I'd agree with you more...Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Trump wouldn't do that. MLK was black...Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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When "the audience" consistently attributes attitudes to somebody who claims they don't have attitudes, maybe it's the 'speaker'.Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostCondescension?
You guys pretty consistently attribute attitudes to me that I simply don't have...
Again, I'll leave you with your incredibly hostile attitude toward Trump that you're going to continue to insist you don't have.That's not the first time that has happened ...
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Maybe. But when that feedback happens in only one venue, I tend to suspect the venue. And folks here (generally) have a bad habit of trying to read minds and assume motivations. That's a dangerous thing to do in any context, but especially in a written context. I am regularly told, here, what I think, what I feel, what my motivations are, etc. Even more amusing, when I let people know that they don't have it right, they insist THEY are right - and they're talking about MY feelings/attitudes. I find the whole thing rather silly.Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWhen "the audience" consistently attributes attitudes to somebody who claims they don't have attitudes, maybe it's the 'speaker'.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAgain, I'll leave you with your incredibly hostile attitude toward Trump that you're going to continue to insist you don't have. When did I ever claim I don't have a hostile attitude towards Trump? I think I've been very clear that I dislike the man, think he is a reprehensible human being, and won't dignify him with the title "President" because I won't disrespect the office he holds by doing that. If that is not hostility, I don't know what is. I would (and will) use every legal means at my disposal to ensure he is not permitted a second term. I believe I even called him a pig at one point.
At no time did I say, "I'm not hostile towards Trump." I absolutely am.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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It's okay carpe. Just chalk it up to yet another of those pesky "right-wing memes" and hand wave it away.Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostCondescension?
You guys pretty consistently attribute attitudes to me that I simply don't have...
I'm always still in trouble again
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Blindly so. (give you another something to denyOriginally posted by carpedm9587 View Post)
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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No - that part is not true. I am not blindly hostile to Trump. I've done my homework.Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostBlindly so. (give you another something to deny)The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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Seriously? You think Trump should have explicitly explained the rules of an honor challenge to someone living in an honor/shame society?Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
Yeah, OK.
Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
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Carpe - you can't even acknowledge it's a good thing those prisoners are home with their families. I've thrown that out there a bunch of times waiting for just ONE of you guys to at least agree that's a good thing! You have to come up with all kinds of crap like "this isn't the first time...."Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
(sure, you will now, to try to prove.....)The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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I don't think it's a right-wing meme. It doesn't qualify. It appears to be a dynamic of this forum. So is the propensity for taking arguments against a stated position and hand-waving them away by calling it (ironically) hand-waving.Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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I think you are adding concepts to the letter that are not there.Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSeriously? You think Trump should have explicitly explained the rules of an honor challenge to someone living in an honor/shame society?
Yeah, OK.
And for a shame/honor-based society, the terms "shame" and "honor" are powerful ones. They don't need to be explained - just used.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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Can't?Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post An argument from silence, CP?
Of COURSE it's a good thing they're home. Kudos to Trump for his role in doing it. My apologies (and yes this time "apologies" is sarcastic) for not thinking to include it on my list of "things I agree with Trump on." I was not aware you were waiting for it. It was a good thing when Obama did it too. Indeed, I am pretty sure prisoners have been released from the DPRK (and never has a D been more ironic) under each of the last five presidents.
They were all good things. Just not much of a differentiator. And like the previous releases, it's not clear that Trump had much of a role in it. That being said, I haven't followed it closely, so I could be wrong. But Trump takes a lot of credit for things he had nothing (or little) to do with. Another one of his marvelous personality quirks. But what the heck - if you lie often enough, eventually people accept it as the truth...Last edited by carpedm9587; 05-25-2018, 02:34 PM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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What you posted comes across as condescending, whether you explicitly intended it to or not.Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostCondescension?
You guys pretty consistently attribute attitudes to me that I simply don't have...
You know Trump just pardoned a black guy, right?Trump wouldn't do that. MLK was black...
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OK, I'm worn out from having to drag that out of you, so I'm going to take a swim, then maybe a nap.Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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