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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostWhat you posted comes across as condescending, whether you explicitly intended it to or not.
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYou know Trump just pardoned a black guy, right?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Trump pardons late black boxing champion Jack Johnson
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Commence spinning....The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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I'm kind of surprised nobody pardoned Johnson until now. There have been people calling for that particular pardon for a long time, and there's really no political downside to it. You don't exactly have a large constituency of people out there who are openly against interracial relationships."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI'm kind of surprised nobody pardoned Johnson until now. There have been people calling for that particular pardon for a long time, and there's really no political downside to it. You don't exactly have a large constituency of people out there who are openly against interracial relationships.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostApparently, there have been calls for this for quite some time, so, yeah, why wait til now?"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostJust yesterday....
Trump pardons late black boxing champion Jack Johnson
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Commence spinning....The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI'm kind of surprised nobody pardoned Johnson until now. There have been people calling for that particular pardon for a long time, and there's really no political downside to it. You don't exactly have a large constituency of people out there who are openly against interracial relationships.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostThe timing makes plenty of sense to me at least... it's at the same time that he's telling NFL players not to protest.
(there, CP, did that meet the need...? )The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThis is one I fault Obama for. He spent so much time trying to NOT make his race an issue...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWait, WHAT? He turned just about everything into race! Between him and Holder... wow.
Frankly, it doesn't reflect well. If people on the right want to stop being seen as (or accused of being) racist, maybe toning down the rhetoric and not supporting initiatives like the N.C Voter ID law would be a good way to change that perception?
Obama found himself, over his eight years, constantly caught between the African American community that wanted him to take a stand against racism and for that community, and much of the white community that didn't want to hear a thing about race. If he said nothing, he was "abandoning his people." If he spoke out, even only as much as any other president, he was "race baiting." Head's you win, tails I lose.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYeah...I hear that a lot from the right.
Frankly, it doesn't reflect well. If people on the right want to stop being seen as (or accused of being) racist, maybe toning down the rhetoric and not supporting initiatives like the N.C Voter ID law would be a good way to change that perception?
Obama found himself, over his eight years, constantly caught between the African American community that wanted him to take a stand against racism and for that community, and much of the white community that didn't want to hear a thing about race. If he said nothing, he was "abandoning his people." If he spoke out, even only as much as any other president, he was "race baiting." Head's you win, tails I lose.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYeah.... It happens to be true, your implied disparagement of the right notwithstanding. The Democrat party is heavily into identity politics, and the Divider in Chief led the charge.
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostIt would help if people like you and those on the left (a distinction which is getting rather blurry lately) would stop mischaracterizing a Voter ID law as 'racist'. I'm not sure what rhetoric you're referring to. It's not the right that sees dog-whistle racism everywhere.
It so happens that minorities and the poor tend to vote Democratic, so in targeting Democratic voters, they are prime targets. The situation in North Carolina is different. In North Carolina, the Republicans requested data on use of IDs for voter registration, and specifically asked for the data to be provided broken down by race. Then they explicitly sought to have discounted as "valid" IDs that were predominantly used by black people and other minorities. It is what led the court to describe the VoterID law as "targeting minorities with surgical precision."
I have not yet met a single Republican who decries this situation, or takes a stand against it. Perhaps you will be the first? If not, then I think the right needs to look to itself, to some degree, for why the left continually sees them as "racist." You cannot stand by when racist things are done, or defend them, and not subject yourself to the accusation.
Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostRace should not be relevant. Racism in all groups should be condemned, but the left which manages to see fantasms of racism in whitey everywhere seems utterly blind to much more obvious racism among blacks and Hispanics. I'm sick and tired of the double standard.
IMO...
The left jumps too quickly to accusations of racism...
The right too quickly jumps to deny its existence and effects...Last edited by carpedm9587; 05-26-2018, 02:12 PM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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