Trump and North Korea

[Tassman]

IIRC the next exercise was not scheduled until the Spring of 2019 so putting it on hold now is hardly much of a concession.

The joint military exercises were scheduled for August. But nice of Trump to unilaterally give them up and agree with Kim that they were provocative. China of course got what it wanted. Kim is one his way there next week (for his third visit in as many weeks) to report back to his senior partner. They must be pleased that Trump was so compliant.

[Mountain Man]

Yeah - I've been through these...as well as through the original speeches. The first one is a disingenuous removal the references from context, most of which were either self-deprecating, collective references (e.g., my administration), or simply innocuous (counting such things as "I am here to address you").

The second makes the mistake of number of instances versus length of references. It's apples and oranges. You also can pick one speech from each person and end up making Obama look good or Trump look bad. Try looking over the breadth of their speeches to see the pattern.

That's some industrial grade spin there, carpe.

[carpedm9587]

That's some industrial grade spin there, carpe.

Well thought-out response, MM...

[Mountain Man]

Those are just examples not arguments!

But isn't it strange how there are so many examples of this behavior? If I didn't know better, I would think it was a pattern.

• In Twelve-Minute Speech to America on Oregon Mass Shooting, Obama Refers to Himself 28 Times
• President Barack Obama used the funeral for Hawaii senator Daniel Inouye to talk about himself. In the short 1,600 word speech, Obama used the word "my" 21 times, "me" 12 times, and "I" 30 times.
• Watch: Obama name-drops himself 76 times in gun speech
• Obama Mentions Himself 119 Times In Speech About Hillary
• Did he forget about the voters? Obama says the words 'I' and 'me' a total of 117 times in ONE speech
• ‘I,’ ‘Me,’ ‘My’—Obama Uses First Person Singular 199 Times

[Mountain Man]

Well thought-out response, MM...

Oh, right, you're under the impression that your every post is an unassailable fortress of rhetoric.

Sorry to break it to you, but an "argument" that is essentially a hand-wave can be dismissed with a hand-wave.