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  • #46
    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    And because of this constant over-the-top, either exaggerated or wholly fabricated barrage from the left, they have succeeded in creating a boy-who-cried-wolf atmosphere where Trump's actual gaffes and screw-ups get buried under an avalanche them or Stormy Daniels "news" and generally ignored.
    And that infuriates them, so the rant even more, and say even WACKIER things... rinse, repeat....

    The more they ignorantly express their hatred for Trump, the more they become the very nature of who they believe Trump is.

    I have to admit, though, it is a bit entertaining to watch.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      But he's TRUMP! They're the media - we SHOULD be able to trust them to tell the truth, not so much a politician.
      I get the impression lately that no matter what the media reports, even if it's completely truthful, conservatives will just dismiss it anyway (especially with Trump, Steve Bannon, Sebastian Gorka, and others dismissing anything critical of Trump as "fake news"). If you're going to be dismissed anyway, that removes any incentive to go out of your way to be fair.
      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
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        The Bernie Sanders campaign worker who shot up the softball game trying to kill Republicans reminds me; did you hear about the male porn star who fired a handgun inside the Trump National Doral golf resort while shouting anti-Trump rhetoric a couple days ago?

        And completely unrelated CNN analyst Chris Cillizza deleted a tweet depicting Trump in cross-hairs

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • #49
          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
          I get the impression lately that no matter what the media reports, even if it's completely truthful, conservatives will just dismiss it anyway (especially with Trump, Steve Bannon, Sebastian Gorka, and others dismissing anything critical of Trump as "fake news"). If you're going to be dismissed anyway, that removes any incentive to go out of your way to be fair.
          As much as I have been accused (not necessarily by you) of being a "Trump Supporter", the man, to me, is in so many ways a total embarrassment. He is, for now, the President of the United States, so I - just like I did for Obama - will continue to pray for him and our country. I don't defend ANY of Trump's antics - I have said numerous times that he is his own worst enemy.

          I don't think that I so much "dismiss" reports of Trump's failures or foibles or antics as I just accept "that's who he is", and, for now, that's who we've got for POTUS.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
            I get the impression lately that no matter what the media reports, even if it's completely truthful, conservatives will just dismiss it anyway (especially with Trump, Steve Bannon, Sebastian Gorka, and others dismissing anything critical of Trump as "fake news"). If you're going to be dismissed anyway, that removes any incentive to go out of your way to be fair.
            This is the danger of the steady boy-who-cried-wolf sort of wild reporting the MSM has engaged in with this "animals" remark and its (mis)coverage being just another example in a long line. And I've been noticing more and more moderates tuning out news on Trump as well.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              As much as I have been accused (not necessarily by you) of being a "Trump Supporter", the man, to me, is in so many ways a total embarrassment. He is, for now, the President of the United States, so I - just like I did for Obama - will continue to pray for him and our country. I don't defend ANY of Trump's antics - I have said numerous times that he is his own worst enemy.

              I don't think that I so much "dismiss" reports of Trump's failures or foibles or antics as I just accept "that's who he is", and, for now, that's who we've got for POTUS.
              It's not just Trump; I mean to say that I'm seeing other conservatives do this as well online. Rather than point out what they see wrong with an article or refute any incorrect facts, they will just say "fake news" and ignore it.
              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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              • #52
                Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                It's not just Trump; I mean to say that I'm seeing other conservatives do this as well online. Rather than point out what they see wrong with an article or refute any incorrect facts, they will just say "fake news" and ignore it.
                Me?
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  Me?
                  No, you're very thoughtful in whatever you post. I don't have in mind anybody here other than demi.
                  "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                    No, you're very thoughtful in whatever you post. I don't have in mind anybody here other than demi.
                    Ah, well, Demi is Demi, like Trump is Trump. Think, however, how much Tassman and JimL and, to a lesser extent, Shuny are just as Demi as Demi, but from the reverse perspective.

                    And, um.... I wish it were true that I was "very thoughtful in whatever I post" - I'm trying to do better.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      And our beloved Muslim friends from the religion of peace declare that Jews are (or are descended from) monkeys and pigs!
                      In some fairness, the general culture indulges in hyperbolic rhetoric like this. It's not meant to be taken literally.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                        In some fairness, the general culture indulges in hyperbolic rhetoric like this. It's not meant to be taken literally.
                        Says a pig!

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                          In some fairness, the general culture indulges in hyperbolic rhetoric like this. It's not meant to be taken literally.
                          That's pretty much my point, I guess -- you don't see the left blowing a gasket when this kind of rhetoric is used, and they even engage in it themselves, but when Trump uses it, the fecal material comes forcefully and violently into contact with the air circulation device.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by seer View Post
                            Why is the left going crazy because Trump called the violent MS13 gang animals?
                            This language is unacceptable in a debate about immigration. Bigotry requires that “the enemy” be made out to be less than human, and Trump has long made use of blurry lines to criminalise entire groups of people...”raping, thieving Mexicans” being a case in point. It’s not about “animals” it’s about dog-whistles regarding undocumented immigrants to further to make them targets for discrimination.
                            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                              This language is unacceptable in a debate about immigration. Bigotry requires that “the enemy” be made out to be less than human, and Trump has long made use of blurry lines to criminalise entire groups of people...”raping, thieving Mexicans” being a case in point. It’s not about “animals” it’s about dog-whistles regarding undocumented immigrants to further to make them targets for discrimination.
                              So, we can add you to the list of people defending MS13.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                                This language is unacceptable in a debate about immigration. Bigotry requires that “the enemy” be made out to be less than human, and Trump has long made use of blurry lines to criminalise entire groups of people...”raping, thieving Mexicans” being a case in point. It’s not about “animals” it’s about dog-whistles regarding undocumented immigrants to further to make them targets for discrimination.
                                So we can't call murderers animals, I wonder if you would have a problem calling death camp Nazis animals...
                                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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