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  • #31
    Originally posted by CMD View Post
    "Cops are pigs!"
    "A fetus is not an 'unborn child'! It is a parasitic ball of goop and nothing more!"


    ...said no one on the left, ever, because such dehumanizing language is befitting only of Hitler-loving right-wing Nazis and not enlightened progressives.
    "Cops are pigs" :
    "A Federal Judge has rejected a request to rehang a controversial painting depicting police officers as animals that drew national headlines earlier this year after Republican lawmakers repeatedly removed it from a display inside the U.S. Capitol complex....It depicts police officers with the animalistic features of a pig or warthog along with symbolic elements of the 2014 shooting of unarmed black teen Michael Brown by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., removed the painting on Jan. 6 and left it in Clay's office with a handwritten note complaining it did not comply with the competition's suitability guidelines."




    "Head of police organization: Colin Kaepernick's socks 'disrespectful' and NFL at fault: The executive director of one of the largest police organizations in the country blasted Colin Kaepernick and the NFL on Thursday after learning that during training camp practices in August, the San Francisco 49ers quarterback wore socks that bear the image of cartoon pigs wearing police hats."



    Florida Mayor refers to police officer as 'pig'
    WPTV News | West Palm Beach Florida
    Published on Jan 30, 2017
    Stuart Mayor Eula Clarke asked for "more time" Monday after a growing controversy involving language she used around a city police officer.




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    "A fetus is not an 'unborn child'!:


    Washington Post Columnist Gene Weingarten 1/19/18:
    I am an unreconstructed liberal ....I have written this in The Post before: I think the fundamental difference between pro-choice and anti-abortion people is not about a political disagreement or even an intellectual disagreement. I think it is entirely visceral, almost primitive. I believe that aborting a first trimester fetus is not "killing a baby." You, presumably, do. That's where this giant political issue incubates. I am not in favor of "killing babies." But If I genuinely think that a 12-week fetus is not a "baby," I am not pro-death, and I deeply
    resent your labeling me as such.




    Why I'm More Pro-Choice After Becoming A Mother
    Pris Blossom Writer. Feminist Mom. Culture Junkie.


    See, I’ve known people who had abortions at 14 weeks and to them it was not a baby, it was a fetus, a collection of cells.




    Rosemary Mac Cabe - a blogger, journalist and TV panellist based in Dublin: Here’s why I’m pro-choice: a beginners’ guide
    The 8th amendment doesn’t just hurt women seeking abortions
    The 8th amendment to the Irish Constitution essentially places the life of the unborn – that is, the life of a fertilised embryo, from the moment it is confirmed as such – on a par with the life of the mother. So that, if you wish to terminate your pregnancy; if you wish to halt the growth of cells (that may or may not become a baby), you are denied the right to do so based on the fact that the Irish Government has decided that group of cells is as valuable as you are. Your worth is measured as being exactly equal to a fertilised embryo the size of a grape.






    The Day I Learned Aborted Fetuses Aren’t People
    Oct 19, 2015, 10:01am - Amy Littlefield
    "For the vast majority of patients, who were in the first trimester of pregnancy, the answer was: tiny. More than 90 percent of abortions occur at or before 13 weeks of pregnancy, when the embryo or fetus ranges from little more than a bundle of cells to no more than a few inches long....
    Yet even as I took part in hundreds of abortions as a counselor, I think on some level, I still wondered if seeing second-trimester fetal tissue could shake my pro-choice views. Then one day, I was offered the unusual opportunity to see the fetus of a patient who had been close to 22 weeks pregnant. With some trepidation, I accepted. I looked. And in that moment, my pro-choice position crystallized. While it was shaped like a baby, what I was looking at was not a person. It was a fetus. A fetus my patient had chosen not to make into a baby. I felt no attachment to it. Relieved, I stepped into the recovery room to check on my patient. Years later, looking back on this moment, it’s still the patient I think about, not the fetus"
    "What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer

    "... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen

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    • #32
      It is sort of odd how all these news sources have somehow simultaneously omitted references to the MS-13 gang. Maybe they are all using the same spell checker which replaces MS-13 with child immigrants.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        Have you read the transcript? I have. Trump was doing his usual waffle, and as usual with Trump it's not entirely clear what he's referring to. It's one of those "some of them are bad people" type statements where the who 'them' is precisely is left vague. He wasn't specifically talking about only MS-13, nor was he talking about all immigrants and wannabe immigrants.

        Nonetheless calling people "animals" is unacceptable dehumanizing language in any context. Even the worst criminals or terrorists are people, they are not animals, and he should be ashamed of saying otherwise.
        The unborn are also people whether you like it or not. MS-13 has done the dehumanization in this case - behaving like senseless animals. Calling them animals is at least as accurate as lots of the lies about the NRA.
        Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          Bet you not a single one of our resident liberals is going to call out the mainstream media for what can only be described as a bald-faced lie.
          They'll find a way of blaming Trump for it.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #35
            Similar to Golda Meir's quote - "We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us", I think some liberals, particularly in the MSM, hate Trump more than they hate MS13!

            Do Liberals Hate Trump More Than MS-13? Joseph Wulfsohn, The Federalist

            Media Choose To Defend MS-13 Instead Of Acknowledging Misleading Reporting On Trump

            Trump was criticized for referring to members of MS-13 as 'animals.' This is a violent gang with the motto 'kill, rape, control.'
            May 18, 2018 By Joey Wulfsohn

            News outlets including the Associated Press and The New York Times took comments from Trump regarding MS-13 gang members out of context Wednesday, misleading readers to believe he referred to immigrants generally as “animals.”

            When these outlets and journos were called out for their extremely misleading reporting, many of them chose to defend MS-13 rather than walk back their criticism of Trump. This is a gang with the motto, “kill, rape, control.”
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Similar to Golda Meir's quote - "We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us", I think some liberals, particularly in the MSM, hate Trump more than they hate MS13!

              Do Liberals Hate Trump More Than MS-13? Joseph Wulfsohn, The Federalist

              Media Choose To Defend MS-13 Instead Of Acknowledging Misleading Reporting On Trump

              Trump was criticized for referring to members of MS-13 as 'animals.' This is a violent gang with the motto 'kill, rape, control.'
              May 18, 2018 By Joey Wulfsohn

              News outlets including the Associated Press and The New York Times took comments from Trump regarding MS-13 gang members out of context Wednesday, misleading readers to believe he referred to immigrants generally as “animals.”

              When these outlets and journos were called out for their extremely misleading reporting, many of them chose to defend MS-13 rather than walk back their criticism of Trump. This is a gang with the motto, “kill, rape, control.”
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              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #37
                The media is deservedly getting raked over the coals here, but Trump makes untrue claims all the time and hardly is in the position to be upset over it.
                "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Littlejoe View Post
                  "Cops are pigs" :
                  "A Federal Judge has rejected a request to rehang a controversial painting depicting police officers as animals that drew national headlines earlier this year after Republican lawmakers repeatedly removed it from a display inside the U.S. Capitol complex....It depicts police officers with the animalistic features of a pig or warthog along with symbolic elements of the 2014 shooting of unarmed black teen Michael Brown by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., removed the painting on Jan. 6 and left it in Clay's office with a handwritten note complaining it did not comply with the competition's suitability guidelines."




                  "Head of police organization: Colin Kaepernick's socks 'disrespectful' and NFL at fault: The executive director of one of the largest police organizations in the country blasted Colin Kaepernick and the NFL on Thursday after learning that during training camp practices in August, the San Francisco 49ers quarterback wore socks that bear the image of cartoon pigs wearing police hats."



                  Florida Mayor refers to police officer as 'pig'
                  WPTV News | West Palm Beach Florida
                  Published on Jan 30, 2017
                  Stuart Mayor Eula Clarke asked for "more time" Monday after a growing controversy involving language she used around a city police officer.




                  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                  "A fetus is not an 'unborn child'!:


                  Washington Post Columnist Gene Weingarten 1/19/18:
                  I am an unreconstructed liberal ....I have written this in The Post before: I think the fundamental difference between pro-choice and anti-abortion people is not about a political disagreement or even an intellectual disagreement. I think it is entirely visceral, almost primitive. I believe that aborting a first trimester fetus is not "killing a baby." You, presumably, do. That's where this giant political issue incubates. I am not in favor of "killing babies." But If I genuinely think that a 12-week fetus is not a "baby," I am not pro-death, and I deeply
                  resent your labeling me as such.




                  Why I'm More Pro-Choice After Becoming A Mother
                  Pris Blossom Writer. Feminist Mom. Culture Junkie.


                  See, I’ve known people who had abortions at 14 weeks and to them it was not a baby, it was a fetus, a collection of cells.




                  Rosemary Mac Cabe - a blogger, journalist and TV panellist based in Dublin: Here’s why I’m pro-choice: a beginners’ guide
                  The 8th amendment doesn’t just hurt women seeking abortions
                  The 8th amendment to the Irish Constitution essentially places the life of the unborn – that is, the life of a fertilised embryo, from the moment it is confirmed as such – on a par with the life of the mother. So that, if you wish to terminate your pregnancy; if you wish to halt the growth of cells (that may or may not become a baby), you are denied the right to do so based on the fact that the Irish Government has decided that group of cells is as valuable as you are. Your worth is measured as being exactly equal to a fertilised embryo the size of a grape.






                  The Day I Learned Aborted Fetuses Aren’t People
                  Oct 19, 2015, 10:01am - Amy Littlefield
                  "For the vast majority of patients, who were in the first trimester of pregnancy, the answer was: tiny. More than 90 percent of abortions occur at or before 13 weeks of pregnancy, when the embryo or fetus ranges from little more than a bundle of cells to no more than a few inches long....
                  Yet even as I took part in hundreds of abortions as a counselor, I think on some level, I still wondered if seeing second-trimester fetal tissue could shake my pro-choice views. Then one day, I was offered the unusual opportunity to see the fetus of a patient who had been close to 22 weeks pregnant. With some trepidation, I accepted. I looked. And in that moment, my pro-choice position crystallized. While it was shaped like a baby, what I was looking at was not a person. It was a fetus. A fetus my patient had chosen not to make into a baby. I felt no attachment to it. Relieved, I stepped into the recovery room to check on my patient. Years later, looking back on this moment, it’s still the patient I think about, not the fetus"
                  Bunch of crazy Trump-loving right wingers, obviously...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                    The media is deservedly getting raked over the coals here, but Trump makes untrue claims all the time and hardly is in the position to be upset over it.
                    But he's TRUMP! They're the media - we SHOULD be able to trust them to tell the truth, not so much a politician.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      Talk about your dehumanizing
                      I've said it before and will say it again:
                      From an outsiders perspective one of the biggest cultural problems among evangelicals in America seems to be the lack of value placed on human lives, and the extent to which they will shrug at the mistreatment of people.

                      This manifests itself in a wide range of things:
                      - Torture? No biggie for them.
                      - Police gunning unarmed people down in the streets? Shrug, the criminals had it coming, in their minds.
                      - Wars? The Muslims need to be bombed back to the stone age, and if it kills civilians, so what?
                      - Death penalty? Criminals don't deserve to live.
                      - Mass shootings? Just the price of 'Freedom'.
                      - Inhumane treatment of prisoners in prisons? They're criminals, who cares.
                      - Lack of healthcare for the poor? They're poor, they don't really matter.
                      - Inhumane treatment of immigrants and ICE behaving like a terrorist organisation? Illegals are all criminals anyway.
                      etc.

                      The consistent lack of love and concern for fellow humans and lack of interest in right-treatment of them (aka 'human rights') is constantly stunning. And dehumanizing language is regularly used to justify it all. Any anytime such topics are discussed the response is "BuT AbOrTiOn!!!"
                      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        I've said it before and will say it again:
                        Yeah, cause that ALWAYS makes it more truerererer.

                        From an outsiders perspective one of the biggest cultural problems among evangelicals in America seems to be the lack of value placed on human lives, and the extent to which they will shrug at the mistreatment of people.
                        TBBT -- Typical Broad Brush Treatment.

                        This manifests itself in a wide range of things:
                        - Torture? No biggie for them.
                        False - it's a complex issue, and should not be considered lightly at all.

                        - Police gunning unarmed people down in the streets? Shrug, the criminals had it coming, in their minds.
                        A lie straight from the pits of hell, but I believe that in your little hate-filled world, you actually believe this.

                        - Wars? The Muslims need to be bombed back to the stone age, and if it kills civilians, so what?
                        Wow -- this is the position of some extremists, but nobody I associate with believes that to be even CLOSE to the truth.

                        Death penalty? Criminals don't deserve to live.
                        Not "criminals" - but specific criminals who have demonstrated they have no regard for human life.

                        Mass shootings? Just the price of 'Freedom'.
                        I'm going to stop addressing the talking points of a lunatic, and just write it off as what it is.

                        The consistent lack of love and concern for fellow humans and lack of interest in right-treatment of them (aka 'human rights') is constantly stunning.
                        Another steaming pile of horsiepoo.

                        And dehumanizing language is regularly used to justify it all. Any anytime such topics are discussed the response is "BuT AbOrTiOn!!!"
                        Abortion is murder, yes. The rest of your lunatic ranting is... so "you".
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #42
                          And I meant to amen that

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            And I meant to amen that
                            Seriously, when he goes off on one of these insane rants, he makes Trump look honorable! It's like he's trying to outTrump Trump, one lie after another.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #44
                              Broad-Brush-LI-600.jpg
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                Seriously, when he goes off on one of these insane rants, he makes Trump look honorable! It's like he's trying to outTrump Trump, one lie after another.
                                And because of this constant over-the-top, either exaggerated or wholly fabricated barrage from the left, they have succeeded in creating a boy-who-cried-wolf atmosphere where Trump's actual gaffes and screw-ups get buried under an avalanche them or Stormy Daniels "news" and generally ignored.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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