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  • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    So I think it is important in general, and particularly important at this point in time in the US that groups of people not be labelled as subhuman or demeaned as 'animals'. Yes, that does even apply to the worst dregs of humanity like Dick Cheney, MS-13, or Trump.
    But "Basket of Deplorables" is OK, right?

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    • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      The graph shows the end product of factoring all that in. It's a 'percentage-wise' graph as you put it.

      Natives commit more total crimes per native than immigrants commit per immigrant (more than 3x as many according to that graph of arrest data).
      i.e. A US native is more prone to crime than an immigrant is, on average.
      No, the graph shows CONVICTIONS, not commissions of crimes.... an illegal alien who is DATTED*, for example, and does now show up for his hearing (as happens quite frequently) is not convicted, so he/she is not in that chart.

      And it's interesting that it shows that illegal immigrants are convicted nearly THREE TIMES as much as legal immigrants who are much easier to locate and prosecute.



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      • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        But "Basket of Deplorables" is OK, right?
        Well, a liberal said that, so it's cool.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          There were a group of guys in a line bowed down in prayer, as Muslims tend to do regularly, and the Israeli sniper shot one of them. In another instance a man was simply walking inoffensively across a large stretch of empty ground, doing nothing in particular with no one else in sight, and the Israeli sniper shot him.
          Source, please.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Well, a liberal said that, so it's cool.
            It makes it very clear that the liberals don't actually give a damn about calling anyone "animals" but just went, "Oh look! More ammunition against Trump!"

            And Starlight just jumps on board the train because it gives him an excuse to call conservatives "racists"

            I don't think Starlight even believes his own crap.

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            • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              It makes it very clear that the liberals don't actually give a damn about calling anyone "animals" but just went, "Oh look! More ammunition against Trump!"

              And Starlight just jumps on board the train because it gives him an excuse to call conservatives "racists"

              I don't think Starlight even believes his own crap.
              Sadly, I think Starlight is so messed up in the head that he DOES believe it. I didn't used to think that, but he's been working hard to convince me.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                It makes it very clear that the liberals don't actually give a damn about calling anyone "animals" but just went, "Oh look! More ammunition against Trump!"
                Exactly. As previously shown they have no trouble calling others "animals" and the like. Even the Washington Post (which is AFAICT the only major news service still standing by their original claim) indulges in it: Donald Trump is the monster the GOP created

                I'm always still in trouble again

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                • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  But "Basket of Deplorables" is OK, right?
                  An irredeemable basket of deplorables who, as she made clear in India back in March, are a bunch of backward dolts as well.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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                  • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                    I don't think Starlight even believes his own crap.
                    That's how I feel about most liberals. I hear what they say, and I'm thinking, "There's no way they really believe that. They're just playing the part they're expected to play." Like my wife's friends who acted genuinely terrified after Trump won because they thought that immigration officials were about to kick down their door at any moment to deport their adopted children. It was so absurd that all I could do was stare blankly. It's very hard for me to believe that anyone could be that disconnected from reality and still able to function in society, which leads me to believe that the outrage of liberals is more feigned than genuine. They're just doing whatever it takes to promote their agenda even if they don't actually believe the words coming out of their own mouths.
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                    • You can't make this stuff up!

                      An MS-13 member who goes by the gang name “Animal” received a 40-year prison sentence this week for a conspiracy that included the murder of a 15-year-old boy, the U.S. attorney’s office in Massachusetts said Tuesday.

                      The nickname, which the prosecutors highlighted in the headline of a press release, is particularly telling, coming just a week after President Trump called members of the violent, immigrant-fueled MS-13 gang “animals.”

                      https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...gets-40-years/
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                      • Originally posted by SL
                        Yes, that does even apply to the worst dregs of humanity like Dick Cheney, MS-13, or Trump.
                        Such dehumanizing language! SL, you should repent immediately from your arrogant hypocrisy!

                        To lump 2 conservative men into the same category as a murderous gang is reprehensible!

                        You are absolutely disgusting!


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                        • Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                          Such dehumanizing language! SL, you should repent immediately from your arrogant hypocrisy!

                          To lump 2 conservative men into the same category as a murderous gang is reprehensible!

                          You are absolutely disgusting!
                          He's trolling, mossy. He may feel that way, but his choice of names was certainly no accident. He can emote better than you. Don't let him drag you down to his level; he'll beat you with experience.
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                          • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                            He's trolling, mossy. He may feel that way, but his choice of names was certainly no accident. He can emote better than you. Don't let him drag you down to his level; he'll beat you with experience.
                            I was trying to be sarcastic and ironic.



                            And thank you for commenting on my lack of not being on his level.



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                            • Originally posted by seer View Post
                              The point is Star, we have enough of our own crime to deal with without importing more.
                              Given immigrants, both legal an illegal, seem to commit less crime than the average American, if you're worried about your own crime rates you should import more immigrants to dilute the crimes of your present population among more people and thus lower the crime rate and victimization rate.

                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              But "Basket of Deplorables" is OK, right?
                              Yes. Critiquing people, calling them names, or whatever is fine. Calling them subhuman is what's highly problematic.

                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              An irredeemable basket of deplorables who, as she made clear in India back in March, are a bunch of backward dolts as well.
                              As much as I loathe Hillary, I have to agree with her on this one.

                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Source, please.
                              You could just google for video footage of it, there's plenty in general. Forum rules probably prevent me linking to what is pretty disturbing and graphic stuff.

                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              Not sure if Starlight even realizes that MS-13 was started in Los Angeles but most members are El Salvadoran, not Mexican.
                              I don't care one iota about MS-13, and have no interest in either talking about them or learning more about them. In case you haven't been following the thread, it's been conservatives wanting to constantly talk about MS-13, and I've consistently said I don't think Trump was talking about them and have no interest in defending them.
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                              • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                                Given immigrants, both legal an illegal, seem to commit less crime than the average American...
                                We don't actually know that, because there is absolutely no way to know what crimes they have committed for which they have not been charged and/or convicted. So, the rest of your rant is just that.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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