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    Why is the left going crazy because Trump called the violent MS13 gang animals?
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  • #2
    Originally posted by seer View Post
    Why is the left going crazy because Trump called the violent MS13 gang animals?
    Especially since humans are nothing more than higher evolved animals.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by seer View Post
      Why is the left going crazy because Trump called the violent MS13 gang animals?
      Because some are pretending that he was referring to all immigrants or illegal immigrants rather than what he plainly said

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        Because some are pretending that he was referring to all immigrants or illegal immigrants rather than what he plainly said
        More accurately, that's what was widely reported in the media and many people are still under that mistaken impression.
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        • #5
          The liberal media still has little reservation against lying is seems.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
            More accurately, that's what was widely reported in the media and many people are still under that mistaken impression.
            And Trump doesn't help himself with his blather, but it appears to have been a rambling answer to a direct question about MS13.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              I would never describe MS13 gang-bangers as animals. That would be insulting to my cats.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Because some are pretending that he was referring to all immigrants or illegal immigrants rather than what he plainly said
                Have you read the transcript? I have. Trump was doing his usual waffle, and as usual with Trump it's not entirely clear what he's referring to. It's one of those "some of them are bad people" type statements where the who 'them' is precisely is left vague. He wasn't specifically talking about only MS-13, nor was he talking about all immigrants and wannabe immigrants.

                Nonetheless calling people "animals" is unacceptable dehumanizing language in any context. Even the worst criminals or terrorists are people, they are not animals, and he should be ashamed of saying otherwise.
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                • #9
                  People who believe it is wrong to refer to such creatures as MS-13 as "animals" are themselves animals -- specifically, jackasses.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
                    People who believe it is wrong to refer to such creatures as MS-13 as "animals" are themselves animals -- specifically, jackasses.
                    I think such dehumanisation of others is absolutely atrocious. It's the kind of thinking that led to the holocaust. Labeling others as less than human paves the way for every kind of crime from torture to abuse to murder. It's the sort of language that the worst kind of people use to label their enemies to justify war.

                    If you, for one second, consider such language acceptable, you need to rethink your life immediately, and then spend the rest of the year repenting. If you're going to pretend to be a Christian then remember the bit about humanity made in the image of God. People are not animals.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
                      People who believe it is wrong to refer to such creatures as MS-13 as "animals" are themselves animals -- specifically, jackasses.
                      That's a bit much for an actual opinion, one that is sincerely held by some Christians.

                      I do agree with you that it's a proper descriptor for MS-13, who are the worst of the worst.
                      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                      • #12
                        I will add that from a Christian perspective comparing people to animals is absolutely acceptable. Amos called the women who were oppressing the poor cows, and Jesus called the Pharisees a brood of vipers which I have heard translated as snake bastards.
                        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          Have you read the transcript? I have.
                          Not that I don't trust you, but I don't. Post it. In its entirety, please.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14

                            Sheriff Mims: “There could be an MS-13 member I know about — if they don’t reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about it.”

                            Mr. Trump: “We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — and we’re stopping a lot of them — but we’re taking people out of the country. You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people. These are animals. And we’re taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that’s never happened before. And because of the weak laws, they come in fast, we get them, we release them, we get them again, we bring them out. It’s crazy.”


                            His comment was in response to Sheriff Mims' statement about MS-13, according to NYT, which is the ONLY reliable news source on the planet!

                            As I stated earlier...

                            And Trump doesn't help himself with his blather, but it appears to have been a rambling answer to a direct question about MS13.
                            Obviously, I should have said 'statement' rather than 'question'. Those who hate Trump will give him no leeway whatsoever, and will simply take the worst possible interpretation.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              I think such dehumanisation of others is absolutely atrocious. It's the kind of thinking that led to the holocaust. Labeling others as less than human paves the way for every kind of crime from torture to abuse to murder. It's the sort of language that the worst kind of people use to label their enemies to justify war.

                              If you, for one second, consider such language acceptable, you need to rethink your life immediately, and then spend the rest of the year repenting. If you're going to pretend to be a Christian then remember the bit about humanity made in the image of God. People are not animals.

                              Says the one who thinks nothing of killing humans before birth, and even afterwards.


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