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  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    This was part of their hideous effort to equate MS-13 with all other immigrants.
    Wow. There's no bar under which you won't stoop, or stupid idiocy which you won't make up, is there?

    I'm done with this thread, and your constant attempts to make everything be about MS-13 and your utter obsession with it.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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    • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      I'm done with this thread
      Promise?
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        I've already called you out on this:
        Yeah, I'm still trembling.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          He's been referring to MS-13 as "animals" for awhile now.
          Yeah, the emphasis was Trump taking a huge swat at the media.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            I've already called you out on this:
            1. Nobody defended the gang beyond saying they were human not animals. That's not "defending" them by any metric I think counts.
            Democrats call anyone that disagrees with them Nazi’s = just fine in Starlight land.

            Calling a group of rapist and murders animals = terrible.

            I do wish Starlight and his gang would spare us the fake tears. They have zero issue with attacking anyone that disagrees with them.

            2. Most on the left thought he wasn't talking about the gang, and were upset because they thought he was saying nasty things about immigrants in general as he has in the past. It's people on the right who are obsessed with the gang and can't stop talking about it and who think Trump was talking about it.

            Stop repeating your cow poop, troll.
            Funny how those of us that live in the real world heard the context was about MS-13 and the media clearly lied and ignored the context. I guess flat out lying is just fine when it’s people Starlight agrees with that are lying.
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post





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              I wonder where that episode came from.
              "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
              GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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              • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                I wonder where that episode came from.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outrageous_Okona

                I'm always still in trouble again

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                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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                • Oh. It was the B-plot in an episode I skip over. Makes sense now.
                  "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                  GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                  • Originally posted by Darth Ovious View Post
                    So all the far left nut-jobs are now screaming that you can't call murderers and rapists animals because it is dehumanizing. These are the same nut-jobs who called half the country "deplorables" and call anyone who disagrees with them Nazi's. I very much doubt they can get on their high horse to make a complaint.
                    And dehumanize babies so they can kill them without guilt.

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                    • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      Wow. There's no bar under which you won't stoop, or stupid idiocy which you won't make up, is there?

                      I'm done with this thread, and your constant attempts to make everything be about MS-13 and your utter obsession with it.
                      But we didn't even mention homosexuals in this thread! What are you so upset about?

                      Last edited by Sparko; 05-24-2018, 08:27 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        And dehumanize babies so they can kill them without guilt.
                        You mean a clump of tissue.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          I think it's quite different. Same with KG's earlier example of Jesus calling people snakes.

                          The difference is in whether a poetic simile is being used to suggest a person has a particular trait that the animal happens to be known for (indulgence, danger, viciousness etc) or whether the language is being used to say "this person deserves punishments and treatments that we wouldn't usually feel are appropriate for humans, because they are subhuman". The former is just a visual use of language, the latter is really dangerous territory that goes into the realms of the holocaust and more recently, US government torture programs and US police mistreatment/killings of suspected criminals.

                          Trump's usage was firmly in the second category because he was talking about how the law needs to be applied in unusually strong ways against these bad people because they are 'animals'.
                          I think the case could be made that the use of "animals" is a similar (as you put it) "visual use of language." If a philanderer shares a particular negative trait with a pig, for example, then I think one could argue that a so-called "animal" shares the trait of not valuing life (or something similar) with animals, who obviously don't value life in the way that we humans hope other humans do.

                          I think your distinction between the two is too finely drawn.
                          Last edited by Zymologist; 05-24-2018, 09:37 AM.
                          I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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                          • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            Wow. There's no bar under which you won't stoop, or stupid idiocy which you won't make up, is there?
                            WoW there is no fact you will ignore to hold on to your bigoted anti intellectual false narrative about America, American Conservatives and president trump is there? Fact President Trump was asked directly what he thought of MS-13 and he replied to that. Fact Senator Diane Feinstein's tweet was in reference to Trumps remark totally ignoring teh context with which that remark was made. There is no way any true open minded intellectual would miss those 2 facts proving it was Fienstien, not Trump, conflating MS-13 with immigrants as a whole as you and the rest of your leftist buddies contend.

                            I'm done with this thread, and your constant attempts to make everything be about MS-13 and your utter obsession with it.
                            1. Starlight this thread is about MS-13 and Trumps remark about them and how it was purposely taken out of context to falsely accuse him of doing and being something he isn't. BTW that is the most idiotic excuse I've seen you make about why you are running from a thread in order to keep from admitting you are wrong.

                            Ignore the truth and facts all you want Starlight just stop pretending you are a open minded intellectual.
                            Last edited by RumTumTugger; 05-24-2018, 05:29 PM.

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                            • I just saw this thread title and thought of the TV show Pit Bulls and Parolees.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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