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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostMaybe somebody should tell Hillary that we did take back our country when we chose President Trump to help us Make America Great AgainTM.
“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostTrump "comes across" as an immoral, lying charlatan is because that's precisely what he is. What you see is what you get. Much of what he "gets done", such as the appointment of Conservative judges to implement a minority agenda...such as anti-abortion and LGBT rights...as well as gutting the Environmental Protection Agency etc reveals the deep cynicism of the Evangelical Right who, it seems, will stop at nothing to get their own way.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostHang on -- The fact that the Constitution itself provides for emendation shows that wanting to "change" it cannot in and of itself be "unamerican." The whole point of being able to alter it is that after some length of time, parts of it cease to fit society. By far my main complaint is with those many who try to weasel around the difficult challenge of amending via legislative, administrative, regulatory, and especially judicial means. They should be flogged and exiled.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI took it to mean that he's not opposed to amending the constitution but rather the notion that it is a "living document" capable of being twisted and distorted into saying the opposite of what is written in order to make it agree with whatever might be a fad of the moment.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd the process to amend the Constitution is, by design, no small task.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostIn fact, you elected another Nixon.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostIt is already far more flexibly interpreted than it should be. If you want to eliminate any of the protections if provides you are, in my view un-American.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostThe Constitution is a legal document. It is to be interpreted in light of the founding fathers -- the verbiage of the Constitution and the discussions in making the Constitution. The language of the day must be utilized as well as the English common law of that era. The philosophers, such as Locke, also play a critical role in understanding the Constitution. As long as we rely on the proper context, debate is reasonable. This Constitution is a contract or treaty among the sovereign states of America who only yielded certain powers to the US Government.
If you understand this framework, you are at the starting point for contributing to the advancement of America.
Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostThere are too many groups who seek to simply bypass the law in order to recreate America into servile community. Many people are blindly giving up God-given rights (i.e., the philosophical understanding of our source of rights) while they are ignorant of the sort of changes they are 'demanding.' I liken this to protesters on the streets demanding "take away right and freedom to speak."
Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostWe had protesters who called our president fascist. The group that normally and predominantly known for protests against fascism are the Communists, where such philosophy has led to the death of millions upon millions of people. Ironically the protest was against the socialist party which I understand to be another flavor of communism. The main point is that these protesters were either ignorant of the communist influence or are seeking to destabalize America on false grounds.
Originally posted by mikewhitney View PostHopefully you come to understand the threats on our freedom.
Originally posted by mikewhitney View Postoh right. You had asked for some recommendations on readings about the US Constitution.
I had read "The Making of America: The Substance and Meaning of the Constitution" by Cleon Skousen
But I had meant to see if there were alternative studies on the Constitution for you to look at. I've never gone into scholarly detail on the Constitution.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIn many ways there is a lot of truth to that. When you listen to many of those opposed to him, especially the Never Trumpers, their biggest problem with him is how he comes across. He's not polished but rather crude, rude and anything but P.C. So they'll oppose him even though he's accomplishing many of the things they've wanted done.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAvoiding someone who makes William "Boss" Tweed look like a saintly choir boy
You guys always seem to forget that, long before Trump was running against Clinton, he ran against 17 other Republicans - and the Republicans chose Trump out of that slate of options. So then saying, "well we had to choose him, he was better than Clinton," is a bit disingenuous. After all, you're the ones who narrowed it to that choice.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostJeb Bush and John Kasich make William Boos Tweed look like a saintly choir boy?
You guys always seem to forget that, long before Trump was running against Clinton, he ran against 17 other Republicans - and the Republicans chose Trump out of that slate of options. So then saying, "well we had to choose him, he was better than Clinton," is a bit disingenuous. After all, you're the ones who narrowed it to that choice.KodosCarson.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostJeb Bush and John Kasich make William Boos Tweed look like a saintly choir boy?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View PostDon't look at me, I voted forKodosCarson.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostHang on -- The fact that the Constitution itself provides for emendation shows that wanting to "change" it cannot in and of itself be "unamerican." The whole point of being able to alter it is that after some length of time, parts of it cease to fit society. By far my main complaint is with those many who try to weasel around the difficult challenge of amending via legislative, administrative, regulatory, and especially judicial means. They should be flogged and exiled.
And Carpe, I did not call you particularly un-American. Mine was a generic statement which may or may not apply to you. That is for you, or any other individual, to determine.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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