Originally posted by Tassman
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What I have said is not simply an opinion, it is a fact. The Bible (specifically the Christian Bible) does not command purity of the races as a generalized concept. There is nothing more to say here unless you are willing to provide justification for your assertion it does so beyond someone somewhere said they could do it.
The fact some people ABUSE a text cannot be used as a summary of the content of that same text. Otherwise, it would be fair to say Darwin supported Hitlers Eugenics. Or that YECs have good arguments for an Earth <10,000 years old.
As I said, people can make the bible say whatever they want, whether about anti-miscegenation laws or anti-homosexual laws.
Not if his “freedom” overrides the freedom of another. He does not get special treatment in law just because he is Christian.
The only freedom being removed is the freedom of the baker to discriminate against a homosexual couple lawfully marrying each other.
It does not take away the baker’s right to freely practice his religion, it takes away his perceived right to discriminate against those he disapproves of. The same would apply to discriminating against an interracial couple in recent times past. The same would apply to the perceived right to discriminate against blacks, as it did under Jim Crow, or Jews or Muslims in the name of God. There is NO place for discrimination under the Civil Rights Act.
While sexual-orientation might* be an inherited trait, sexual actions and practices are choices and subject to almost all religious moral codes. There is no discrimination against anyone's sexual orientation. However, what does exist here is the attempt to force a person to violate their religion's moral code as regards certain types of sexual action and thus restrict their right to follow and obey their religions teachings. Specifically, you want to force a man to design and create a symbol of a marriage which sanctions same-sex actions which according to a straight-forward reading of both Old and New testament texts are forbidden.
There seems to be no problem in bakers making cakes for divorced persons remarrying, which according to Jesus is adultery.
Not so. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 guarantees all citizens equal protection of the laws under the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution and its duty to protect those rights under the Fifteenth Amendment.
We’re not talking Hitler. The topic is the right to refuse a service to a gay couple seeking to legally marry and this is unconstitutional.
Bigotry can never be justified even if done in the name of Jesus.
What is bigotry is to despise another person simply because their religious faith causes them to have different moral standards from your own.
The rest is snipped! It’s just repetition, with a fair does of Godwin’s Law thrown in for good measure. If you need so many words to try and make your point, then your argument cannot be very strong. And it isn’t.
Jim
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