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  • #46
    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    It's mind boggling to me that you seem to genuinely believe this BS.
    That applies to you I think.

    Now we have Trump who's economy is the exact opposite continuation of Obama's
    Fixed that for you. It's insanely bizarre you think Trump has somehow turned on a dime and changed the economy when the man has done virtually nothing.

    but instead of congratulating our hardworking President
    Hardworking? The man spends most of the day watching Fox. I always thought people must have been exaggerating when they told me that Reagan spent most of his day watching TV and movies, but it seems Trump is determined to outdo him on that front, especially when he combines it with the golfing trips.

    Seriously, you liberals are insane.
    You're the one with two idiots as your avatar, who believes every single conspiracy theory ever, and who argues for young earth creationism and who thinks skin cells don't metabolize, and who manages to be aggressively wrong almost non-stop in general. I'd say it's pretty clear you're the one who's actually insane.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      You're the one with two idiots as your avatar,
      That's a little unfair.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
        That applies to you I think.

        Fixed that for you. It's insanely bizarre you think Trump has somehow turned on a dime and changed the economy when the man has done virtually nothing.

        Hardworking? The man spends most of the day watching Fox. I always thought people must have been exaggerating when they told me that Reagan spent most of his day watching TV and movies, but it seems Trump is determined to outdo him on that front, especially when he combines it with the golfing trips.

        You're the one with two idiots as your avatar, who believes every single conspiracy theory ever, and who argues for young earth creationism and who thinks skin cells don't metabolize, and who manages to be aggressively wrong almost non-stop in general. I'd say it's pretty clear you're the one who's actually insane.
        Dimbulb logic: "Let me show you how not-stupid I am!" [Proceeds to say something mind-numbingly stupid.]

        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


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        • #49
          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
          A full out military coup is not going to happen anytime soon in the US. The real threat is the creeping growth of the Executive branch, which has grown exponentially over the past century. For every Taft who believes in the constitutional limits of his branch, there's ten other presidents who don't.
          Worse, Congress has been increasingly letting POTUS garner more and more power abrogating much of their authority to the Executive branch likely so they can say they're not responsible if something turns out to be unpopular.

          I'm always still in trouble again

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          • #50
            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
            A full out military coup is not going to happen anytime soon in the US. The real threat is the creeping growth of the Executive branch, which has grown exponentially over the past century. For every Taft who believes in the constitutional limits of his branch, there's ten other presidents who don't.
            I am more worried about the Judicial branch. They seem to just make rulings willy nilly regardless of law or what the other branches think. And there is no check to their power.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
              I said nothing of the sort. How about you back up and take another run at it?
              If you think that the military won't aquiesse to the President, the Commander and Chief, then what else could you mean but a coup?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                It's mind boggling to me that you seem to genuinely believe this BS. Obama and the Democrats worked very hard to convince us - or at least convince low-info morons like you - that high unemployment and miniscule economic growth was the "new normal" and that things couldn't get better. Now we have Trump who's economy is the exact opposite of Obama's, but instead of congratulating our hardworking President for a job well-done, we have idiots like Maher hoping to see America crash and burn just so it will reflect poorly on Trump.

                Seriously, you liberals are insane.
                Refute the data I gave you MM. Job creation under Obama bested that of Trumps 1'st year in 5 out of his last 6 years. Don't tell me how mind boggling it is to you that I believe that, refute it, or just admit that you're a member of the cult and believe whatever they tell you regardless.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by JimL View Post
                  If you think that the military won't aquiesse to the President, the Commander and Chief, then what else could you mean but a coup?
                  That wouldn't be a coup, Jim. That would be the military refusing to follow an unlawful order, which is its right. (The word you're hunting for is "acquiesce".)
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                    That wouldn't be a coup, Jim. That would be the military refusing to follow an unlawful order, which is its right. (The word you're hunting for is "acquiesce".)
                    Who said anything about the military being ordered to do anything.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
                      Refute the data I gave you MM. Job creation under Obama bested that of Trumps 1'st year in 5 out of his last 6 years. Don't tell me how mind boggling it is to you that I believe that, refute it, or just admit that you're a member of the cult and believe whatever they tell you regardless.
                      "Job creation" is a misleading statistic because the majority of jobs "created" under Obama were low-paying part-time jobs and seasonal work, and he presided over the worst labor-participation rate in decades. That's the primary reason unemployment dropped under Obama, because people who aren't in the work force aren't counted, so the more people who simply gave up looking for work the lower the unemployment number would go. Even CNN had trouble spinning that one in 2016 with an article titled "Why doesn't 4.9% unemployment feel great?". The sobering bullet-points: 1. Fewer adults are working; 2. Long-term unemployment is still high; 3. Wage growth is anemic.
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • #56
                        The term "coup" connotates of the entire system of government being replaced with another. What you're describing would be more like a constitutional crisis, which is surely serious, but not a coup.
                        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          Who said anything about the military being ordered to do anything.
                          You seem to have this quaint idea that some president might decide on the spur of the moment to refuse to step down, and everybody will meekly accept that. In order for someone to stay in power, they need to have some means for enforcing that, Jim. In the case of the Commander in Chief, the military is sort of the obvious means for accomplishing that - if they're willing to play along.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            "Job creation" is a misleading statistic because the majority of jobs "created" under Obama were low-paying part-time jobs and seasonal work, and he presided over the worst labor-participation rate in decades. That's the primary reason unemployment dropped under Obama, because people who aren't in the work force aren't counted, so the more people who simply gave up looking for work the lower the unemployment number would go. Even CNN had trouble spinning that one in 2016 with an article titled "Why doesn't 4.9% unemployment feel great?". The sobering bullet-points: 1. Fewer adults are working; 2. Long-term unemployment is still high; 3. Wage growth is anemic.
                            We all understand how you like to play with the statistics depending upon who is in office MM, but the fact remains that job creation under Obama outpaced that of Trump in 5 0f his last 6 years.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                              You seem to have this quaint idea that some president might decide on the spur of the moment to refuse to step down, and everybody will meekly accept that. In order for someone to stay in power, they need to have some means for enforcing that, Jim. In the case of the Commander in Chief, the military is sort of the obvious means for accomplishing that - if they're willing to play along.
                              No, all Trump and a corrupt Congress would need is for the military to do nothing. Should they intervene, that's a coup.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                                The term "coup" connotates of the entire system of government being replaced with another. What you're describing would be more like a constitutional crisis, which is surely serious, but not a coup.
                                Yes, well perhaps a coup is what is taking place right now then.

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