Originally posted by carpedm9587
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All the military branches have different charts to score men and women against with women scores being less.
Current sport records favor men much more vs women.
Olympic records have men getting better scores vs women.
Current biological reality says women have, on average, 33% upper body strength and 40% less lower body strength vs men.
Doctors, physical trainers, and athletes will tell you the same thing.
Face it, youÂ’re wrong. Allowing trans women to compete against born women will push born women out of women sports and no amount of hoping reality isnÂ’t true will change that fact.
And none of them will provide the information I'm asking for because, AFAICT, it has never been studied. If it has not been studied, we have no way of knowing what percentage of the infamous 10% gap is due to physical/biological differences, and what percent is due to social indoctrination.
As I have now noted multiple times - I do not question that there are clear biological differences. Indeed, I delight in some of them! However, we also live in societies where women (on average) still play second fiddle to men in multiple respects, are regularly told they are inferior to men, and are told they have their "proper role" to play. The form of indoctrination from childhood must have some degree of effect. How much? No one knows. Maybe the highest women achievers (in sports) are not the exception because of their biology, maybe they are the exception because they were raised in a context where that message was not regularly delivered by their family or community - or maybe they had the mental fortitude to shut it out.
The point is, we simply don't know.
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