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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Postmy bad...
Well you walk into a restaurant strung out from the road
And you feel the eyes upon you as you're shakin' off the cold
You pretend it doesn't bother you but you just want to explode
Most times you can't hear 'em talk, other times you can
All the same old cliches, "Is that a woman or a man?"
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostBut in the song Turn the Page, Bob Seger said that people could not tell the difference.
Well you walk into a restaurant strung out from the road
And you feel the eyes upon you as you're shakin' off the cold
You pretend it doesn't bother you but you just want to explode
Most times you can't hear 'em talk, other times you can
All the same old cliches, "Is that a woman or a man?"
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI'll be watching our first female scholarship for football kicker closely.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostBut in the song Turn the Page, Bob Seger said that people could not tell the difference.
Well you walk into a restaurant strung out from the road
And you feel the eyes upon you as you're shakin' off the cold
You pretend it doesn't bother you but you just want to explode
Most times you can't hear 'em talk, other times you can
All the same old cliches, "Is that a woman or a man?"Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostOh, so Bob Seger was a trans - I never knew...
I met her in a club down in North Soho
Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry cola
C-O-L-A cola
She walked up to me and she asked me to dance
I asked her name and in a dark brown voice she said, "Lola"
L-O-L-A Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola
Well, I'm not the world's most physical guy
But when she squeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine
Oh my Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola
Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
Why she walk like a woman and talk like a man
Oh my Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola
Well, we drank champagne and danced all night
Under electric candlelight
She picked me up and sat me on her knee
And said, "Little boy won't you come home with me?"
Well, I'm not the world's most passionate guy
But when I looked in her eyes
Well, I almost fell for my Lola
Lo lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola
Lola lo lo lo lo Lola lo lo lo lo Lola
I pushed her away, I walked to the door
I fell to the floor, I got down on my knees
I looked at her, and she at me
Well that's the way that I want it to stay
And I always want it to be that way for my Lola
Lo lo lo lo Lola
Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls
It's a mixed-up, muddled-up, shook-up world
Except for Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostKeep in mind that at the NFL level, a kicker is expected to have the leg strength to kick 50+ yard field goals as well as be able to get the ball at least close to the end zone on kickoffs. College teams have the luxury of having a kickoff specialist, and usually get by with a kicker with less than NFL range and accuracy (and a good kicker can spend 20+ years in the league, so there aren't many openings, either).The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIs this reply intentionally vague and ambiguous?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostIn a sport that is based on strength, as I have noted, I suspect that is likely. Endurance...less so. Skill? I find that unlikely.
My point, all along, was that Pix was making absolute claims for which she had only partial data. We know there is a biological difference. We suspect there is also a cultural/social one. We do not know to what degree each contributes to the current gap between men and women. If women were not repeatedly told they couldn't compete against men, would their performance against men increase 1%? 5%? 10%? No data exists to determine this. So a claim that cultural/social influence has "zero impact" is simply not defensible."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThanks for that. It helps clarify. So the general gap across most sports is 10%, and the gap across strength-related sports is the higher 30-40%. So in the claim biology (X) > cultural/social influence (Y) we now have more detail on X. I'm still looking for data/information on Y. Without it, the hard claim X > Y simply cannot be substantiated.
Do I think it's possible X > Y? Absolutely. Do I think it's likely? I suspect there is not a single answer for every sport. Given the gap in strength sports, my gut says "likely." Given the narrower gap in endurance sports, my gut says "could go either way." Given the gap in skill sports, my gut says, "culture dominates." But I cannot substantiate any of those "gut feels" without the missing piece of the puzzle.
I have to admit that I am amazed to be pointing that out. It seems rather obvious to me."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post'''''''10%'''''''' is crap comparison. Men more heavy, but even though more weight to move, still faster!!
Likely 30%+ difference in strength."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post*whoosh*
A man going through estrogen therapy is still a man. It might reduce but will not eliminate the inherent physical advantages in strength and speed that he has over women. Seriously, aren't you guys always crying about "male privilege"?
Joanna Harper (April 1, 2015). "Do transgender athletes have an edge? I sure don't". The Washington Post.
Why is this OK in your world? I have yet to hear a coherent defense of this from any of the liberals posting here.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostThe point is you have no evidence to support your claim, just idle speculation. The reality is despite social hurdles coming down, the gap between male and female athletes remains consistent.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostIt’s amusing that you make this claim, but keep failing to show social factors are at work. Social factors likely have an effect on the number of women athletes, but I doubt it had much on performance.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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