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Originally posted by Ignorant Roy View PostThe ignorance and dishonesty is yours, since you haven't reread the cited articles, and are mischaracterising my comment.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Littlejoe View Postyour great grandfather didn't walk across a desert most likely...and probably wasn't in much danger of sexual predators, or becoming a sex slave like some of these children are being reported as doing.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSuch as being subjected to the dangers of a desert crossing on foot without adequate shelter, food, and water?"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostMy great grandfather emigrated here from Germany by himself when he was 13. Jews celebrate becoming adults at 13. IIRC, most of the children being held are teenagers.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Charles View PostAnd after that being separeted from their parents. Feel free to try to ignore it. I think this way of deliberately turning your blind eye to children suffering tremendeous harm is what causes more and more people, including me, to conclude that you guys are not really Christians.
Please, manufacture some more outrage showing you have no idea what you are talking about.
I posted here http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post553796 about how that little girl on the cover of Time with Trump was never separated from her parent and her mom was not running away from some desparate situation, she left a husband and 3 other children behind in a middle class life style and paid $6,000 for a coyote to bring her to the USA. Endangering that little girl the whole way for no reason. She wasn't escaping some war torn country or extreme poverty. She had $6,000 to pay a coyote. She had a family she left behind and a middle class life. Her husband said he would never put his children through that trip. He stayed behind.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAs if we care what you think of us, little drama queen?
Please, manufacture some more outrage showing you have no idea what you are talking about.
I posted here http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post553796 about how that little girl on the cover of Time with Trump was never separated from her parent and her mom was not running away from some desparate situation, she left a husband and 3 other children behind in a middle class life style and paid $6,000 for a coyote to bring her to the USA. Endangering that little girl the whole way for no reason. She wasn't escaping some war torn country or extreme poverty. She had $6,000 to pay a coyote. She had a family she left behind and a middle class life. Her husband said he would never put his children through that trip. He stayed behind."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Chuckles View PostAnd after that being separeted from their parents. Feel free to try to ignore it. I think this way of deliberately turning your blind eye to children suffering tremendeous harm is what causes more and more people, including me, to conclude that you guys are not really Christians.
Look, none of us are turning a blind eye to it. What we are turning a blind eye to are the liberals acting like being housed in clean facilities and being given food, clothing, healthcare, an education, and cultural enrichment is somehow torture. Their parents broke the law, we can't ignore that, but I believe the United States is trying to make the best of a bad situation.
So what about you? Are you willing to condemn the parents who by their actions put their children in this unfortunate situation?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI'm curious - where do you get the statistic about teenagers. We know of three "full" "tender age" detainment centers (no idea what their size is), with a fourth one planned (Houston is objecting). That sounds like a lot of toddlers/infants. I have no idea what the age distribution is...so if you have some data, I'd like to look at it.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAs if you know anything about real Christianity. I'm still waiting for scripture to support your implication that we shouldn't punish lawbreakers.
Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostLook, none of us are turning a blind eye to it. What we are turning a blind eye to are the liberals acting like being housed in clean facilities and being given food, clothing, healthcare, an education, and cultural enrichment is somehow torture. Their parents broke the law, we can't ignore that, but I believe the United States is trying to make the best of a bad situation.
Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSo what about you? Are you willing to condemn the parents who by their actions put their children in this unfortunate situation?"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI note that almost zero conservative posters here have had the guts to vote in the poll at the start of this thread regarding whether they support the policy.
I guess if the November midterms end up being run primarily on the topic of whether families should be separated or not, we'll find out then where US conservatives truly stand on their "values".I am Punkinhead.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post[ATTACH=CONFIG]28458[/ATTACH]"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI have not used her as an example. Are you claiming no children are separeted from their parents? If not, then how does that story change the fact that so many children were? You guys are certainly doing your best to focus on something else, perhaps because you know supporting this policy in its entire scope contradicts what you claim is your religion.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostAnd moral issues seemingly do not exist in MM universe if Obama once did or said the same. Then all discussion seems to end, or at least he has changed the subject.
Oh wait, attack Christians. right.
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