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  • Originally posted by ke7ejx View Post
    Guess again, Kiwi.
    Cool. I guess that makes you the bravest deplorable on TWeb at expressing your deplorable views. (Demi doesn't count cos he's just a troll)

    I see the UN has announced that ripping children away from their parents constitutes torture. Also within the US leading Dems seem to be increasingly labeling the practice a "crime against humanity" (which has a specific meaning under international law).
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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    • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      Cool. I guess that makes you the bravest deplorable on TWeb at expressing your deplorable views. (Demi doesn't count cos he's just a troll)

      I see the UN has announced that ripping children away from their parents constitutes torture. Also within the US leading Dems seem to be increasingly labeling the practice a "crime against humanity" (which has a specific meaning under international law).
      What country puts children in jail with parents? Doesn't 'rip them away'???

      Stupid!
      Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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      • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        I didn't say that, did I? I was commenting on your overly dramatic accusations, saying we are not Christian and trying to make it sound like Trump is personally ripping children out of the mother's arms while we all sit back and cackle. From the moment you got to this site all you have done is sit there waiting for opportunities to snipe at Christians. Even if you have to make up crap. You are a sad little man, Charles. I feel sorry for you. It must really be lonely to be you.
        Oh you sad persecuted Christian.

        Trump, by attempting to court his racist, Evangelical supporters, has got himself stuck in it right up to his neck and serve him right.

        The Flores settlement prevents the federal government from keeping children in immigration detention for longer than necessary — and the courts have ruled that 20 days was the limit. But no asylum proceeding can be properly processed within 20 days so it’s inevitable that even under Trump’s panicky executive order, the government will violate the Flores settlement as it stands now.

        Silly Donald, poor children!
        “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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        • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          Well please, let us know. We are holding our breath in anticipation.
          Becasuse that would be so worthy. (I hope you note the irony).

          Sparko, I think you should try to come up with something of substance. Your personal attacks will not get you far. Whether I have done a lot or not so much does nothing to change my points. You are approaching a fallacy of irrelevance again.
          "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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          • This is an article that I thought provides a bit of a balanced view into the situation with housing these kids. LA Times is assessed as having a left-center bias and high-level of factual reporting. That rating is confirmed by allsides.com.
            The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

            I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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            • Michael Gerson shares some very interesting thoughts in his opinion piece called "The Trump administration defends border cruelty with heresy" (choose the article under "Recent articles")

              Here are some of the most interesting parts of it:

              Sessions is effectively claiming divine sanction for the idea that people who break laws may be punished and deterred by subjecting their children to mental anguish. This is cruelty defended by heresy.
              Segregationists and autocrats throughout Western history have claimed that Romans 13 covers oppressive or unjust laws. But the centerpiece commitment of Christian social ethics is not order; it is justice. For a good introduction to the concept, Sessions might read Martin Luther King Jr.'s "Letter from a Birmingham Jail." "A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God," King argued. "An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law." And how should justice be defined? "Any law that uplifts human personality is just. Any law that degrades human personality is unjust."
              Trump's immigration policy is a carnival of degradation. At one facility, hundreds of children have been confined (according to an Associated Press story) "in a series of cages created by metal fencing." At another place (according to a Los Angeles Times report), "children were running away, screaming, throwing furniture and attempting suicide." At a small shelter on the Texas border (according to The Washington Post), screaming toddlers were isolated from their parents and caregivers were "not allowed to touch the children."
              Sometimes those who invoke God's justice would do better to fear it.
              "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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              • Maybe Demi shouldn't be surprised!

                So prevalent among libs, even those that call themselves Christian, rejecting obvious fact pointed out so many times, that kids 'torn ( )' from criminal parents everyday, everywhere because they go to jail. Why? For special fake outrage against Trump cos he 'did special bad evil'.

                Where is honesty? Just fake outrage, fake attitude, fake righteousness. Disgusting!
                Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                • Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                  Maybe Demi shouldn't be surprised!

                  So prevalent among libs, even those that call themselves Christian, rejecting obvious fact pointed out so many times, that kids 'torn ( )' from criminal parents everyday, everywhere because they go to jail. Why? For special fake outrage against Trump cos he 'did special bad evil'.

                  Where is honesty? Just fake outrage, fake attitude, fake righteousness. Disgusting!
                  There's certainly nothing "fake" about your total lack of compassion and that of your fellow Trump supporters. Good Christians all!

                  The majority of these "criminal parents" are refugees seeking asylum from violence and gang brutality in countries such as Venezuela, from which they come for the sake of their children. Despite Trump's claims to the contrary, "immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the United States. And experts say the available evidence does not support the idea that undocumented immigrants commit a disproportionate share of crime". NY Times.

                  It seems that you are all too ready to buy into the racist hate speech of your lying leader.
                  “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                  • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                    The majority of these "criminal parents" are refugees seeking asylum from violence and gang brutality in countries such as Venezuela, from which they come for the sake of their children. Despite Trump's claims to the contrary, "immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the United States. And experts say the available evidence does not support the idea that undocumented immigrants commit a disproportionate share of crime". NY Times.
                    Lib, if no good evidence, demi will make assumption you are talking out of top of head like usual.
                    Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                    • So new narrative is that, yes? Demi sees, 'think of children had big failure, now it is 'most are actual asylum seekers, really!'
                      Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                      • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        On that topic, I came across this fascinating video yesterday. Fascinating, not least, because I'd never heard anyone directly address that question before and wasn't sure of the answer going into it:

                        Where In the World Is It Easiest To Get Rich?
                        I didn't listen to it, but I am assuming with your hatred of the USA it must not be here or you would never have posted it. Wherever it is, they must be completely evil to have so many rich people there, right? We need to send all of the immigrants there.
                        Last edited by Sparko; 06-25-2018, 12:28 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by Idiotic Missile View Post
                          That's what he was found guilty of in the Sanhedrin trial so the elders would have an excuse to demand crucifixion from PP.
                          Right, it was nothing but an excuse. They could find no legal reason to condemn Jesus, so they invented one.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • Originally posted by Tassmoron View Post
                            Despite Trump's claims to the contrary, "immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than people born in the United States.
                            Fake news. Trump never said all immigrants. He says that those here illegally are more likely to commit further crimes, and he is 100% right.

                            "A report by the Cato Institute released on February 26 reveals that illegal immigrants are much more likely to commit violent crimes than immigrants who follow the law to get here."
                            http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018/...-came-legally/
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              Cool. I guess that makes you the bravest deplorable on TWeb at expressing your deplorable views. (Demi doesn't count cos he's just a troll)

                              I see the UN has announced that ripping children away from their parents constitutes torture. Also within the US leading Dems seem to be increasingly labeling the practice a "crime against humanity" (which has a specific meaning under international law).

                              Canada does it too!


                              Canada also detains migrant children, sometimes for months at a time

                              The U.S. is the focus of international outrage for its policy of separating children from their parents and detaining them after they cross the border in search of asylum.

                              But Canada also detains migrant children — and in some cases, restricts access to their asylum-seeking parents — despite the fact its stated policy is to do whatever possible to avoid it.

                              Last year, 151 minors were detained with their parents in Canadian immigration holding centres.

                              Eleven others were held in custody unaccompanied by an adult, according to the Canada Border Services Agency.

                              CBSA holds people who are considered a flight risk or a danger to the public, and those whose identity cannot be confirmed.

                              'Frightening experience'

                              The holding centres, which are off limits to the public, resemble medium-security prisons. They are surrounded by razor-wire fences and surveilled by guards.

                              There are three such facilities across Canada, in Vancouver, Toronto, and Laval, Que. In some provinces, asylum seekers are detained in prisons.
                              https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...AyTmbe?ocid=sf

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                              • Originally posted by Charles View Post
                                Becasuse that would be so worthy. (I hope you note the irony).

                                Sparko, I think you should try to come up with something of substance. Your personal attacks will not get you far. Whether I have done a lot or not so much does nothing to change my points. You are approaching a fallacy of irrelevance again.
                                No please Chuck, let us know what you have done to save these poor children, other than post on tweb.

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