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  • #16
    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    In other threads I have pointed out to Cow Poke...
    This is about me, isn't it?
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Roy View Post
      Interesting detail:
      a link would be nice.. seems like even in those cases it was about illegal entry:

      Any child being taken during a legal seeking of asylum, I do think is wrong.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        a link would be nice.. seems like even in those cases it was about illegal entry:
        "Irregular" is not necessarily "illegal".
        Any child being taken during a legal seeking of asylum, I do think is wrong.
        Then it's time to vote...
        Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

        MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
        MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

        seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Roy View Post
          "Irregular" is not necessarily "illegal". Then it's time to vote...
          Actually, you can't vote yet cause election day ... um.....





          nevermind

          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Roy View Post
            "Irregular" is not necessarily "illegal". Then it's time to vote...
            I don't think a citizen has to agree with every decision someone they elected makes. Do you?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Roy View Post
              Interesting detail:
              Actually things are much more muddy


              Source: The untold history behind the Trump administration separating children from parents at the U.S. border

              Source

              © Copyright Original Source


              Essentially the choices are either separate the children from the parents or let the parents skate. Considering that it is hardly uncommon to separate the parents from their children when the parents break the law this looks like a whole lot of selective outrage.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #22
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Actually things are much more muddy
                They usually are.
                Essentially the choices are either separate the children from the parents or let the parents skate.
                Choice #3 would be to keep the children detained with the parents in some form of family detainment centre - which makes sense because if the parents are seeking asylum, their children probably are/would too.
                Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Roy View Post
                  They usually are. Choice #3 would be to keep the children detained with the parents in some form of family detainment centre - which makes sense because if the parents are seeking asylum, their children probably are/would too.
                  If you had bothered to read the article you would have seen that they tried that but it was rebuffed by the courts when immigrant rights activists complained



                  So it has been reduced to two choices. Separate the families or let them walk free.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    If you had bothered to read the article ...
                    I read the article.
                    So it has been reduced to two choices. Separate the families or let them walk free.
                    Or expand it back to three choices again by reversing the apparently incorrect ruling.
                    Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                    MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                    MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                    seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Roy View Post
                      I read the article. Or expand it back to three choices again by reversing the apparently incorrect ruling.
                      That is not a choice currently available. Right now we are stuck with only two choices and have to deal with what is not with what we would prefer.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        That is not a choice currently available. Right now we are stuck with only two choices and have to deal with what is not with what we would prefer.
                        I think you forgot you're talking with liberals who believe in the Obama policy of "If you don't like the law then just ignore it."
                        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


                        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          If you had bothered to read the article you would have seen that they tried that but it was rebuffed by the courts when immigrant rights activists complained



                          So it has been reduced to two choices. Separate the families or let them walk free.
                          What about let them walk free but back in Mexico instead of the USA?

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                          • #28
                            Here is an article from when Obama was President:

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                            Kids in Cages (Fundamentally Transforming America)
                            http://www.whatwouldthefoundersthink...orming-america












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                            Last edited by Sparko; 06-14-2018, 12:36 PM.

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                            • #29
                              The image of a child locked in a cage tweeted by immigration rights activist and former Washington Post and Huffington Post reporter Jose Antonio Vargas this past Monday was staged coming from a protest in Dallas over the weekend




                              After it was already exposed the fake fact checkers at Snopes declared that the image was merely "miscaptioned"

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • #30
                                ICE has been terrible since its establishment under the Bush administration. It should be abolished.
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