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    Quote Originally Posted by tabibito View Post
    נָבִיא nabiy - (Hebrew) prophet (unless the pre-monarchical חֹזֶה chozer (seer) applies)
    As for the Japanese: 予言者 (yogensha) is indeed a hopeless rendering, but nowhere near as bad as 配達人 (haitatsunin) would be ... a prophet is neither a postman nor an employee of amex. The problem with translating προφητης (prophétés) to Japanese is that any near fit in native Japanese will imply a medium, divination, or astrology. However, a made up word 天啓家 tenkeika (divine oracle -ist) (or 天啓者 or 天啓人 perhaps) might fit the bill.

    Not so much, by dictionary definition ...
    a person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God. (google dictionary)
    a person who is believed to have a special power that allows them to say what a god wishes to tell people, especially about things that will happen in the future: (Cambridge Dictionary)
    A prophet is a person who is believed to be chosen by God to say the things that God wants to tell people. (Collins Dictionary)
    : one who utters divinely inspired revelations (Websters)
    When a Christian is talking about a Biblical or Christian prophet, he should be talking about the prophet as defined by the primary definitions - not the alternative definitions.
    I agree about the problem of translation---"Deliveryman" does not sound grand either in English or Japanese---and the Japanese language does have this wonderful adaptability of coining new words ---and so something more appropriate might work better. Yet, the Islamic tradition clarifies that the Quran is not "inspiration" as other scripture---but is a "dictation". This distinction is made because at that time---in the Arabian region there were people who were fortunetellers as well as poets who claimed to be "inspired". (The accusation by the people of that time that the Prophet was a fortuneteller or "inspired" poet is denied in the Quran.) In other words, the Quran is a letter from God to humanity and the Prophet(pbuh) is the one who delivers the message as received, without modification. Just as a postman delivers an unopened, unedited message from sender to receiver. However---this concept does not translate well into other languages. The dictionary definition is adequate for Christianity but does not accurately capture the relationship of the Prophet (pbuh) and the Quran as understood from the Islamic tradition. However that is true of any translation from one language to another when cultural baggage is attached to words/concepts/terms. Generally, the inadequacies and imperfections of translations are understood so its not a big deal.

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    Below are the links to stories and testimonies of real muslim apostates - siam & muslims will regard them as "traitors" or "treasoners". They are fully aware of the official death penalty hanging over their heads prescribed by islamic sharia laws, but THEY STILL WENT AHEAD Boldly to abandon & reject islam.

    Surely, there is something more compelling to these brave converts to Christianity from islam, to cause them to dump islam! Despite the official sharia & islamic punishment of death (now Christians can convert to islam too, but there is no injunction OR institutional penalty of DEATH put upon their heads for doing so, making their kind of "conversion", 'a dime a dozen' & done out of convenience).

    1) Dr.Lamin Sanneh, ex-muslim turned Christian:-

    https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/all-...es-voice-south

    2) Sam Solomon, sharia kazi/qadhi or court judge in sunni Islam:-

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=koUgSqK9CwI

    3) Mosab Hassan Yousef, radical Sunni Muslim & son of one of the founders of the radical Islamist group, Hamas:-

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z7v3t1uYTyE

    4) Devoted Moroccan Islamist:-

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SuCYfa0HinM

    5) Dr.Nabeel Qureshi, fervent muslim propagandist from an islamic missionary family:-

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2bjv2t7PC7E

    These true stories & testimonies are simply awesome and inspiring.

    Radical islamist scholar-leader Al-Qaradawi affirmed that it was the Islamic apostasy laws enforced by sharia penal codes that preserved islam and ensured the survival of islam over a thousand years.

    So, these muslim converts who intelligently embraced Christ and turned away from islam are the really brave ones, daring to stand for the truth against the tyranny manifest in the Quran, muhamed & islam.

    Kudos to them!

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    Here's some significant news about a huge surge of Muslim converts to Christianity in the UK. And the first large Parsi service in the Anglican church recently:-

    http://a.msn.com/01/en-gb/BBUiJvc?ocid=se

    Good news, indeed, religious freedom for Muslims in the UK, but unfortunately not in their original muslim majority country.

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    Here is the link to Dr.Lamin Sanneh's story and conversion out of islam into Christianity:-

    https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/all-...es-voice-south

    A scholar and writer - many years at Yale, its fascinating to learn his reasons for conversion to Christ.

    The initial link was kind of broken.

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    The Rise of Apostasy by Abdullah Sameer an ex-muslim is eye opening and also an honest appraisal. Watch carefully from the 15 minute mark, Yasir Kadhi's confession on how he was unable to handle his doubts in the Koran after going to Yale university in USA.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_-pYPWc26Gk

    At least he is honest about it and that is commendable.

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