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  • #16
    This is stupid. Presidents have to deal with dictators and despots of the world because that is where the problems are. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

    Every president and other US leadership has dealt with these people and has to get along with them to get anything accomplished.







    Last edited by Sparko; 06-18-2018, 10:00 AM.

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    • #17
      The picture of Kim and Obama are not of Kim and Obama but two impersonators. May I suggest this of the Bower-in-Chief with Raul Castro

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      or this where they attended a ball game together

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      Last edited by rogue06; 06-18-2018, 08:57 AM.

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #18
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        The picture of Kim and Obama are not of Kim and Obama but two impersonators
        oops
        I thought obama looked odd! edited to remove.

        Point stands though.
        Last edited by Sparko; 06-18-2018, 10:01 AM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by JimL View Post
          As you can see, Trump has a cult following the members of which will excuse anything he does. Just imagine if this was actually Obama instead of Trump, doing Putins bidding, demeaning our allies and making nice with the enemies of democracy, they'd have him up for impeachment already. It's really kind of pathetic and sad to see how willfully blind people can be.
          As much as I disagree with you guys on some things - we agree on Trump. Trump wants to silence the free press. He seems to like hard line dictators and has no problems 'overlooking' their numerous violations of human rights ... as long as he can get some sort of personal gain by doing so.

          This is not a 'what about when Obama did it' moment. This is a moment where in being tired of certain excesses and compromises by the established Democratic and Republican institutions - conservatives, most notably evangelicals, have thrown out the good with the bad and selected and in many cases sided with someone that is much, much worse. Someone that represents the anti-thesis of the Christ who we profess to follow. There can be no excuse for Christians who defend Donald Trumps moral lapses. There is no material gain that can compensate for the searing of the conscience. To side with the persistent lies and human abuses of Donald Trump in the name of Jesus Christ is an abomination. Instead of asking "why was it ok for Obama", we should be saying "this was NOT ok for Obama and now you Donald Trump have become EVEN WORSE". Are we really as Christians willing to sacrifice everything Jesus stood for because we happen to have low unemployment and perhaps a little more cash in our wallets?


          Jim
          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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          • #20
            While Trump is no friend of a free press, unlike his predecessor he has never taken any action to silence the press.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Calm yourself, Mister Exaggerator in Chief. I, for one, was only commenting on your statement that Trump wishes he "could murder people if and when he wanted".

              Do you HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT?
              hmmm. Not sure about that in specific at this time. Donald Trump did say during his campaign that he could shoot someone at random and his followers would not stop following him - which belies a sort of darkness that is very, very scary. And unfortunately it is a statement which so far has shown no signs of being untrue. Nothing Trump has done, no matter how depraved, indifferent, or dangerous to this country or its core beliefs and principles has caused Donald Trump's 'true believers' to flinch. He did say he'd like it if his people behaved around him like Kim's behaved. When called on it, he said he was 'joking' ... but not until called on it. He LIKES the strong men dictators (plural) 'no nonsense' approach (e.g. killing any opposed to them). And He has asked for pledges of loyalty to him from people whose actual job requires a pledge first to the US constitution - and fired those that refused.

              Donald Trump, regardless of what anyone thinks about any predecessor, is most assuredly a would-be dictator. And if it were possible to maneuver our institutions in such a way as to allow him to become such and he knew about it, he would do it. He has thus far shown no capacity for self-restraint or indication he is guided by any principle beyond that which glorifies Donald Trump. The only things keeping him at bay right now are the laws and institutions that he and his staff currently believe would not allow such a move.

              I believe DT is the real deal when we are talking about the sorts of people that are capable of truly great evil in the world.


              Jim
              My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

              If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

              This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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              • #22
                Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                Starlight 2018:



                Starlight 2017:





                I’m confused, is being nice to dictators wrong or not?
                It's fun watching liberals pivot in the wind on this one. First it was...
                "Trump is a warmonger! He's going to piss off the world's dictators and start World War 3!"

                But then Trump shows himself to be a master of peaceful diplomacy, and now it's...
                "Trump is too nice to dictators! Why, I bet he wants to be a dictator himself!"

                I can't wait to see which way the winds in liberal world are blowing tomorrow.
                Last edited by Mountain Man; 06-18-2018, 10:33 AM.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  It's fun watching liberals pivot in the wind on this one. First it was...
                  "Trump is a warmonger! He's going to piss off the world's dictators and start World War 3!"

                  But then Trump shows himself to be a master of peaceful diplomacy, and now it's...
                  "Trump is too nice to dictators! Why, I bet he wants to be a dictator himself!"

                  I can't wait to see which way the winds in liberal world are blowing tomorrow.
                  It's truly a no-win situation. As they say if Trump were to discover a cure for cancer the left would still find something to complain about


                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #24
                    How many times did leftists on this board praise Castro when he died?

                    Yeah...meh
                    I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                      How many times did leftists on this board praise Castro when he died?

                      Yeah...meh
                      Castro was a communist; he couldn't possibly have been a dictator! He was a regular ol' Joe, ruling on behalf of the proletariat!
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                      • #26
                        I find it a bit ironic that the same democrats that have been complaining about Trump abusing his power and wanting to be a dictator wanted him to sign executive orders taking away guns a couple of months ago and regarding the immigration children just now.

                        Especially coming from people like Chuck Schumer! Refusing to do his job and expecting Trump to use his pen instead?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                          I find it a bit ironic that the same democrats that have been complaining about Trump abusing his power and wanting to be a dictator wanted him to sign executive orders taking away guns a couple of months ago and regarding the immigration children just now.

                          Especially coming from people like Chuck Schumer! Refusing to do his job and expecting Trump to use his pen instead?
                          exactly and he did nothing when there was abuse during Obama's watch.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Rocket Man View Post
                            There are times it almost seems like liberals were really hoping that Trump would strong-arm Kim and instigate World War 3 instead of quietly disarming him with a smile.
                            A dictator who was recently responsible for the death of an American citizen, runs his own concentration camps and is generally speaking a really, really bad and immoral guy does not deserve the friendly treatment he got from Trump.
                            "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Chuckles View Post
                              A dictator who was recently responsible for the death of an American citizen, runs his own concentration camps and is generally speaking a really, really bad and immoral guy does not deserve the friendly treatment he got from Trump.
                              Yes, why use peaceful diplomacy to disarm an enemy when you could get in a shooting match instead?

                              Brilliant thinking there, Chuck.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Charles View Post
                                A dictator who was recently responsible for the death of an American citizen, runs his own concentration camps and is generally speaking a really, really bad and immoral guy does not deserve the friendly treatment he got from Trump.
                                I have zero problem with being friendly in person to people you're negotiating with. That's basic diplomacy.

                                Where I have problems with Trump's behavior, is when he's away from the actual diplomacy and is just speaking to the US populace in general as their pretend TV president: He doesn't choose to talk about or endorse American values, he chooses to praise various dictators around the world, states that he wishes the US was more like their countries in many and various ways, says he wished US media praised him as much as NK state media praises Kim, gets excited about how Kim's able to kill generals he doesn't like, etc.
                                "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                                "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                                "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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