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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI've been advocating for somebody locking him out of his twitter account for quite some time, now.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostWhy would you want to do that and miss the fun of watching the left have a collective conniption every time he posts?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostAre you so stupid you don't understand the difference between total crime, and the tiny, tiny, tiny minority of crime being done by foreigners (which will, of course, increase if there are more foreigner total)? I guess you are.
From BBC (And for starlight's benefit that does not stand for Breitbart Central or something like that):
I seem to remember another poster here hand waving reports that the lion's share of those that fled to Europe in the last few years were young males (essentially heroically abandoning the women and children to their fate) as being nothing but a right wing meme
And from Newsweek:
And from the Daily Telegraph last year:
It seems that starlight is having some serious problems with numbers in this thread all the while sneering about how everyone else's "understanding of basic science and basic statistics is so poor"
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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I was actually curious to look up some German sources yesterday on this, so I googled for Germany's biggest newspaper, and used google translate to get me an English version. Here is their article (google translation typos and errors present)...
Trump's number on crime in Germany has no basis:
Crime in Germany is at its lowest level since 1992 . From 2016 to 2017 , crimes of burglary, theft and street crime have declined by a total of 9.6 percent. This emerges from the latest police crime statistics (PKS), the Federal Interior Minister Horst Seehofer presented in May to the public.
That did not stop US President Donald Trump from claiming in a tweet on Monday that crime had risen in Germany, and to present his own numbers a day later. Since Germany received more migrants, "crime" has increased by ten percent, [claimed] Trump on Twitter [saying] The officials in Germany would not have wanted to report these numbers [and that] America should behave "smartly"...
It is not the first time that Trump has responded to a false and criticized tweet by reiterating his claim. "Double Down" is the term used in the American language - a term from the gambling game Black Jack... Trump will not convince a critic with this rhetorical trick - but with his followers he demonstrates his firm conviction of his "truth"...
The police crime statistics is not uncontroversial: Experts criticize that there are listed only the cases that come to light - especially in sex offenses, the dark figure could be estimated to be significantly higher... The statisitc is therefore not the wisdom final conclusion when it comes to the assessment of crime. There are no signs of deliberate manipulation, as Trump claims. These are reliable figures from the German police authorities...
At least with reference to the [Police Crime Statistics], Trump's statement can not be supported. It is unclear how Trump comes to ten percent. The President is known for not paying too close attention to the truth. The statistical collection of crime is complex and there are many more statistics covering different areas. However, it is unlikely that Trump came to his assessment of "crime" through a long-term evaluation of all studies. More likely, he simply invented the number.
Another article from a month ago, just on crime, no reference to Trump:
In Germany, the crimes in 2017 have fallen by almost ten percent:
"Germany has become safer," said Federal Interior Minister Horst Seehofer (CSU) on Tuesday in Berlin at the presentation of police crime statistics 2017 . Whether in the event of burglary, theft or street crime, the crime rates found in 2017 declined year-on-year, totaling 9.6 percent. Also with violent offenses, rape or bodily injury pleasing declining case numbers are to be announced. This concerns both German and non-German suspects, said Seehofer: "It also decreased the outgoing of refugees crime."
After immigration debates and numerous warnings, especially from the CSU may surprise the police findings.
...the long-term comparison shows, according to the Federal Interior Minister, that crime has not been as low since 1992 as it was in 2017 . The number of thefts decreased by 11.8 percent compared to 2016 . In the case of car thefts, the decline was 8.6 percent, with pickpocketing 22.7 percent, with flat dwellings even 23 percent. Violent crime also registered a 2.4 percent drop .
According to statistics, the proportion of suspects without a German passport has fallen compared to the previous year.
The balance was mixed when it came to politically motivated violence. Right-wing extremist violence declined by just under 13 percent, but made up the lion's share of political crimes in 2017 . 312 attacks on asylum-seeker homes were counted. Anti-Semitic offenses increased by 2.5 percent. They are "almost 95 percent right motivated," said Seehofer. Violence offenses increased by 15.6 percent in the left spectrum , especially because of the riots at the G-20 summit in Hamburg, the minister said. The police have also registered significantly more Islamist crimes.
It's worth noting that the Minister Horst Seehofer quoted above giving the crime statistics is the lead anti-migration voice in the German government. If immigrants were causing more crime, he would absolutely be covering it. But he's the one presenting the police statistics, and acknowledging that there's actually less crime both from Germans and non-Germans alike.Last edited by Starlight; 06-19-2018, 05:44 PM."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by rogue06 View Post"A tiny, tiny, tiny" amount?
It seems that starlight is having some serious problems with numbers in this thread all the while sneering about how everyone else's "understanding of basic science and basic statistics is so poor"
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe only "serious problems" are with those who believe Trump's lies. When will you learn, rogue, Trump = fake news?Last edited by Starlight; 06-20-2018, 04:09 AM."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostOn that subject, Trump took aim at Canadian shoe-smugglers today. I guess South Park had it wrong, and America's war with Canada will actually be fought over imaginary shoe-smuggling cartels.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostOh the horror!"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI do feel sad for the intellectually disabled senile old man so clearly out of his depth...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View Post"A tiny, tiny, tiny" amount?
From BBC (And for starlight's benefit that does not stand for Breitbart Central or something like that):
I seem to remember another poster here hand waving reports that the lion's share of those that fled to Europe in the last few years were young males (essentially heroically abandoning the women and children to their fate) as being nothing but a right wing meme
And from Newsweek:
And from the Daily Telegraph last year:
It seems that starlight is having some serious problems with numbers in this thread all the while sneering about how everyone else's "understanding of basic science and basic statistics is so poor"
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