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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThat is the problem. Yes our physical existence is just potentially eternal physical existence and Natural Law is the potentially eternal cause.Last edited by 37818; 09-09-2018, 11:21 AM.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIf our physical existence is eternal, then I don't think it makes sense to say that it had a "cause."Last edited by shunyadragon; 09-12-2018, 11:43 AM.
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Originally posted by 37818 View Post1) Creation (the natural revelation).
2) Special revelation of Holy Scripture (the 66 book Bible).
3) Salvation (By God's grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone).
Mere denial does not refute anything.
ALast edited by Rushing Jaws; 12-24-2018, 02:43 PM.
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Originally posted by JimLIrrelevant to the point I made shunya. If the natural world is eternal, then it makes no sense period to say that it has a cause.Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostIt still remains your reasoning of a very biased fallible human being.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNo, that's just the meaning that words have shunya. The eternal, that which has always existed, can't be caused.
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You are trying to rationalize and logically define what is impossible something you do not believe in.
The concept is that all the worlds of God including our physical existence are eternal with God.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostNothing in the definition of eternal states that it cannot be caused. God is not defined by human logic.
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You are trying to rationalize and logically define what is impossible something you do not believe in.
The concept is that all the worlds of God including our physical existence are eternal with God.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWell, I'm game, tell me how that which has existed eternally, i.e. that which has never not existed, was also caused to exist.
The concept is that all the worlds of God including our physical existence are eternal with God.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWell, I'm game, tell me how that which has existed eternally, i.e. that which has never not existed, was also caused to exist.
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostImagine that for a certain effect to occur you need a specific set of requirements to exist. As long as these requirements are met it will inevitably lead to this effect. If something exists eternally, that meets all the requirements to produce aforementioned effect, will the effect also be eternal?
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