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  • Dem leader Joe Crowley loses primary

    10-term Democratic incumbent Joe Crowley, generally viewed as the #4 Dem in congress and widely touted as a likely replacement for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House, lost his primary today in NY.

    The winner was Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 28 yr old latina who had been endorsed by Bernie Sanders, and who is a member of the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America), and Our Revolution (a Bernie-founded group supporting progressive candidates), Justice Democrats (a progressive group whose candidates refuse corporate PAC money). It is an extremely safe Dem seat, so she will become a congresswoman in November.

    Here was her platform:



    Both DSA and Our Revolution have been having spectacular successes so far this year in the Democratic primaries, getting a large number of their candidates elected.

    In an interview she talked about what the 'democratic socialist' label means to her:

    Q. What drew you to Democratic Socialists of America? What about socialism appeals to you?

    A. It was a lot more about action than about words or descriptions or -isms, because for me, it wasn’t just like I read a book one day and said, “Oh, okay, I’m a Democratic Socialist now.”

    I’m an organizer, I’m an educator, I’m an activist, and what I found was that every time I saw myself showing up for something that was important to my community, when I was one of the many people who showed up in Union Square for the 100-day vigil after Hurricane Maria, DSA was there. Every time I was joining my brothers and sisters in the Movement for Black Lives, DSA was there. When I saw these actions, it was like, Okay, this is clearly an extension of our own community.

    And the thing about DSA is that it’s a very large tent organization. When we talk about the word socialism, I think what it really means is just democratic participation in our economic dignity, and our economic, social, and racial dignity. It is about direct representation and people actually having power and stake over their economic and social wellness, at the end of the day. To me, what socialism means is to guarantee a basic level of dignity. It’s asserting the value of saying that the America we want and the America that we are proud of is one in which all children can access a dignified education. It’s one in which no person is too poor to have the medicines they need to live. It’s to say that no individual’s civil rights are to be violated. And it’s also to say that we need to really examine the historical inequities that have created much of the inequalities—both in terms of economics and social and racial justice—because they are intertwined. This idea of, like, race or class is a false choice. Even if you wanted to separate those two things, you can’t separate the two, they are intrinsically and inextricably tied. There is no other force, there is no other party, there is no other real ideology out there right now that is asserting the minimum elements necessary to lead a dignified American life.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

  • #2
    Sad, beaten by a Communist...
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    • #3
      Running on a platform of spending more money we don't have. And you were complaining about Trump in your other thread, Starlight.

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      • #4
        Too white, male, also rich. Progs eat own of theirs!

        When they find better icon progs will disown Bernie too. Millionaire commie, three houses, white straight male?!?!?!? Sad!
        Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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        • #5
          Perhaps the Democrats will wake up and realize their party has gone way too far left?
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            Perhaps the Democrats will wake up and realize their party has gone way too far left?
            Dem infighting is good, keep it up libs!
            Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Perhaps the Democrats will wake up and realize their party has gone way too far left?
              one of my cousins did. We were talking about a year ago and she is a democrat but said she thinks the liberals have gone too far with all of the riots and antifa and trying to destroy Christians. She said that she can no longer vote for them.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                one of my cousins did. We were talking about a year ago and she is a democrat but said she thinks the liberals have gone too far with all of the riots and antifa and trying to destroy Christians. She said that she can no longer vote for them.
                As my dear old Dad said about 40 years or so ago... "I didn't leave the Democratic party - it left me".
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
                  Full of crazies.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFRHX6glTSM

                  Sad!
                  Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    As my dear old Dad said about 40 years or so ago... "I didn't leave the Democratic party - it left me".
                    so did Ronald Regan

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                      one of my cousins did. We were talking about a year ago and she is a democrat but said she thinks the liberals have gone too far with all of the riots and antifa and trying to destroy Christians. She said that she can no longer vote for them.
                      Trump had a recent rally in Minnesota where 9,000 people attended, and twice as many had to be turned away because the venue was full. According to people who know these things, 60% were Democrats and independents.

                      https://theconservativetreehouse.com...d-independent/

                      Is the "blue wave" turning into a blue swirl down the toilet bowl?
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                        Running on a platform of spending more money we don't have. And you were complaining about Trump in your other thread, Starlight.
                        Declaring that the people are ready for some social and financial justice seemingly ignoring that was exactly what they had for eight years -- which led to the slowest economic recovery in living memory. Now along comes this evil Trump character, who the left claims hates minorities, and suddenly the jobless rate among blacks and Hispanics are at the lowest levels ever.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          Both DSA and Our Revolution have been having spectacular successes so far this year in the Democratic primaries, getting a large number of their candidates electednominated.
                          Fixed that for you. The general election is not until November, when the candidates you're raving about go up against the nominees of other parties.
                          Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                            Fixed that for you. The general election is not until November, when the candidates you're raving about go up against the nominees of other parties.
                            Yeah, they have to run left or right (D or R) to win the primaries, then center to win the general election. Don't see that happening.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Yeah, they have to run left or right (D or R) to win the primaries, then center to win the general election. Don't see that happening.
                              Depending on the district, they don't have to run very close to the center to win. The woman winner in the OP, for example, can probably keep her message exactly the same and still walk away with a victory. It probably won't help the Democrats pick up many seats, however.
                              Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                              Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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