January 23rd 2004, 01:55 AM #1
Weird "coincidence"?!? -- opinions wanted
I'm writing as someone experiencing a lot of doubts. So with that in mind, something a little weird happened tonight. Just for fun, I'd like to get people's opinions:
(If you search on my postings you can see some of my doubting thoughts for background)
Anyway, I worked out tonight with a friend then hung out for a bit at his apartment. We discussed the improbability of the universe existing without a creator and I told him I've been trying to understand the atheist positions and arguments for a naturalistic cause (or noncause) for the universe and the reasons they have against Christianity. We ended up discussing things like the stars, the vastness of space, nanotechnology, etc, then got outside and marveled up at space and the wonders of the stars. Earlier I had told him how I had read some interesting things on a site called chrisitian think thank about "Self-stultifying" arguments, phrases like "truth is subjective" or "communication is impossible" or "the only constant is change."
So anyway, I left, and after I got home he called me to say he had out of the blue picked up his Upper Room devotional for the first time in months, and it was to this one:
Wonders All Around
Read Romans 1:20-23
Buy from me . . . salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see.
-Revelation 3:18 (NRSV)
The Romans reference reads:
Romans 1:20-23 (NRSV)
Ever since the creation of the world his eternal power and divine nature, invisible though they are, have been understood and seen through the things he has made. So they are without excuse; for though they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their senseless minds were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools; and they exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling a mortal human being or birds or four-footed animals or reptiles.
HOWEVER, in his translation it uses the word Stultify in verse 21, a word he had never heard before in his life before I used it tonight, and one I have barely ever heard but it has been on my mind all day since reading the page the other day about self-stultifying arguments.
Well, he believes this is a sign that God is pursuing me. I admit it's a bit odd! Maybe I'm just losing my mind :-P
Anyway, thoughts appreciated!
January 23rd 2004, 03:06 AM #2
I don't doubt that it could be UV.If I have a mystical experience, an experience that's so overwhelming that I know now that there's a God, the cognitive fallout from that is irrelevant. The fact that that experience can be explained by psychologists in numerous ways is irrelevant to the fact that I now know.
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