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  • #46
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    I don't think it's so much "people not knowing anything about it" as it is liberals absolutely refusing to understand that they are destroying human life. They're not ignorant or stupid - they're evil.
    I apologize - I shouldn't say 'liberals', but pro-abortion people. I know some liberals who believe abortion is murder. Unfortunately, they're kind of in the "man without a country" realm.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      I apologize - I shouldn't say 'liberals', but pro-abortion people. I know some liberals who believe abortion is murder.
      Likewise I know a number of conservatives who are pro-abortion.

      I'm always still in trouble again

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      • #48
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        Likewise I know a number of conservatives who are pro-abortion.
        And Democrats are not necessarily liberals and Republicans are not necessarily conservatives.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
          Abortion is never carried out on children. All the fuss over abortion is a result of people not knowing anything about it.
          The elephant in the room, something rarely mentioned, is the Evangelical belief that the zygote is a human person with an immortal soul. This is what the fuss is about under the guise that it's a scientific argument. It's not. It's a religious argument.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Tassman View Post
            The elephant in the room, something rarely mentioned, is the Evangelical belief that the zygote is a human person with an immortal soul. This is what the fuss is about under the guise that it's a scientific argument. It's not. It's a religious argument.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              The elephant in the room, something rarely mentioned, is the Evangelical belief that the zygote is a human person with an immortal soul. This is what the fuss is about under the guise that it's a scientific argument. It's not. It's a religious argument.
              No, the "fuss" is about the pro-abortion crowd's hypocrisy in pretending to be about defending the weak and the helpless, yet murdering the most helpless.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                No, the "fuss" is about the pro-abortion crowd's hypocrisy in pretending to be about defending the weak and the helpless, yet murdering the most helpless.
                The fact they we don't accept the notion that the fetus is a baby makes it not hypocrisy on our part, but the fact that you do see both the fetus and the immigrants as human beings makes your defense of the governments treatment of immigrants hypocritical on your part.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by JimL View Post
                  The fact they we don't accept the notion that the fetus is a baby makes it not hypocrisy on our part,
                  OK, in your case, maybe it's ignorance or stupidity.

                  but the fact that you do see both the fetus and the immigrants as human beings makes your defense of the governments treatment of immigrants hypocritical on your part.
                  Again, ignorance or stupidity, as I'm not defending the governments [sic] treatment of immigrants.

                  Feel free to try again.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                    The elephant in the room, something rarely mentioned, is the Evangelical belief that the zygote is a human person with an immortal soul. This is what the fuss is about under the guise that it's a scientific argument. It's not. It's a religious argument.
                    Could you reference someone stating this belief, please?
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                      Could you reference someone stating this belief, please?
                      Well, it IS generally believed that the soul is created at the moment of conception, and therefore killing a fetus is murder. However, killing an adult is wrong for the exact same religious reason. By Tassman's 'reasoning' he should reject laws against murder.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                        Well, it IS generally believed that the soul is created at the moment of conception, and therefore killing a fetus is murder. However, killing an adult is wrong for the exact same religious reason. By Tassman's 'reasoning' he should reject laws against murder.
                        Yeah, but his constant insistence on this topic that this is THE reason for opposing abortion is more what I was aiming for.

                        Yay for telling people what they believe!
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                          Well, it IS generally believed that the soul is created at the moment of conception, and therefore killing a fetus is murder.
                          However, killing an adult is wrong for the exact same religious reason. By Tassman's 'reasoning' he should reject laws against murder.

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                          • #58
                            Murder of the unborn has also been unacceptable until recently, when it became the sacred cow of the left.

                            http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...nctity-of-life
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #59
                              Derp. I was talking about Christians, Tassman.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                Murder of the unborn has also been unacceptable until recently, when it became the sacred cow of the left.
                                "Murder of the unborn" has only been "unacceptable" to Evangelicals less than 50 years. "In the late 1960s and early 1970s, evangelical Christians widely believed the Bible says life begins at birth and supported looser abortion policies." The same as the Jews traditionally believe.

                                https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonat...b_2072716.html

                                It has only become a "sacred cow", to use your term, in reaction to the emotional hysteria of Evangelicals.

                                Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                                Derp. I was talking about Christians, Tassman.
                                "SOME Christians", I said.
                                Last edited by Tassman; 07-16-2018, 02:31 AM.

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