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  • #76
    Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
    In primaries, yes (there are three different primary systems not counting caucus). In actual elections, no - well, not usually. IF a candidate changed parties, it could happen but I've never heard of a case.

    But I think what you're asking is if there's no opposition in the primary, does the primary even occur?
    No, I was asking if the incumbent needs to win a primary - apparently they don't unless they've seriously annoyed their fellow party members.
    Finally, you're mistaken on one point. Sitting presidents do have to win their party's nomination in the primaries when running for re-election - and while rare, there have been some sitting presidents that didn't actually get that nomination. It hasn't happened in my lifetime - although both Ford and Carter came close as I recall.
    Thanks - didn't know that.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
      California just recently changed so that the top two vote-getters in a primary election - regardless of party - face off in the general election, so in some cases people had to choose between two Democrats.
      I'd forgotten about that.

      That's being challenged in court as I recall and it effectively disenfranchises one party so I doubt this survives the challenge (well, past the Ninth Circuit, anyway...)
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Roy View Post
        No, I was asking if the incumbent needs to win a primary - apparently they don't unless they've seriously annoyed their fellow party members.Thanks - didn't know that.
        Sorry, then I didn't explain well enough - yes, they do - that's a legal requirement.
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        • #79
          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
          Sometimes they do. Eric Cantor infamously lost his seat as Speaker of the House when another Republican defeated him in a primary election.

          A president - especially an unpopular one - can also face a primary fight when seeking another term, but it's rare. Gerald Ford faced a primary fight in 1976 (though he was also unusual in that he wasn't elected to the job in the first place).
          Much more recently (just over 2 weeks ago) the 10-term Representative and Chair of the House Democratic Caucus, Joseph Crowley, got stomped by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 57% to his 42% in a primary election.

          And the election after Ford struggled, Jimmy carter faced stiff competition from Ted Kennedy (IIRC Carter barely had over 50% of the votes)

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