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Originally Posted by
seer
My main point is about Jim's claim that two thirds of Americans think the Bible is bunk. That is just false, even the 40% of liberal Christians left think the Bible is inspired, though not always literal. Which tracks with the poll I linked where 70% of Americans think that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Yes, Jim is on rather less firm ground there.
Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally Posted by
shunyadragon
In some ways I agree. The percentage of fundamentalists rejecting evolution and a universe billions of years old is higher than any other developed country in the world.
And they, the fundamentalists, are of course those christians as a group who, according to the authors of the study, are holding strong to their faith.
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Originally Posted by
JimL
And they, the fundamentalists, are of course those christians as a group who, according to the authors of the study, are holding strong to their faith.
You're on shaky ground here. link
I've highlighted the fundamentalists for you:
fundies.JPG
That's not close to covering the 1/3 or so devout Christians, Jim.
Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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tWebber
Originally Posted by
shunyadragon
I believe you have misinterpreted JimL. He is referring to the fundamentalists who believe that the Bible is the literal actual word of God. This is not comparable to those who are Christian and believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
No, Jim's math does not work that way. Jim's assertion was that 2/3rds of Americans deemed it 'hogwash' - and the numbers do not bear that out at all.
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tWebber
Originally Posted by
One Bad Pig
You're on shaky ground here.
link
I've highlighted the fundamentalists for you:
fundies.JPG
That's not close to covering the 1/3 or so devout Christians, Jim.
Wow, this is even more interesting...
Same Source:
Belief in God among nothing in particulars.jpg
Their 'nothing in particular' category makes up 15.8% of 'religious nones' (unaffiliated) which includes atheist/agnostic. This is the larges segment of the category and look how it actually breaks down.
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tWebber
Let's just say that the rumors of the death of Christianity have been greatly exaggerated.
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tWebber
Originally Posted by
Mountain Man
Let's just say that the rumors of the death of Christianity have been greatly exaggerated.
And God can do wonders, even with a small remnant...
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Originally Posted by
Mountain Man
Let's just say that the rumors of the death of Christianity have been greatly exaggerated.
So I shouldn't quit my day job?
1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
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Originally Posted by
Mountain Man
Let's just say that the rumors of the death of Christianity have been greatly exaggerated.
No one suggested it was dead, only that it is slowly dying the way that all myths eventually do.
Last edited by JimL; 07-12-2018 at 02:45 AM.
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tWebber
Originally Posted by
JimL
No one suggested it was dead, only that it is slowly dying the way that all myths eventually do.
The polls in question don't support that at all, you realize.
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