His election is four years away - that's no where near long enough. He does not have a strong base at all - he isn't likely to win nomination if he mucks this up.
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostHis election is four years away - that's no where near long enough. He does not have a strong base at all - he isn't likely to win nomination if he mucks this up.
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostI probably should have clarified what I meant. I meant that due to his election being several years off, however he votes in this is likely to be forgotten by then in favor of more recent votes.
His chances of retaining the seat are poor no matter what he does - but voting against, ESPECIALLY if the confirmation is then lost? he might as well not bother to run for re-election - he'd have a hard time even with Alabama democrats (slightly different reason but related) and no chance at all come November that year."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostHis election is four years away - that's no where near long enough. He does not have a strong base at all - he isn't likely to win nomination if he mucks this up.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostI can't comment on the investigation part,
http://www.newsweek.com/brett-kavana...immune-1015521
but as for the first half, frankly it wouldn't surprise me a bit.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by psstein View PostNo, Jones is up for re-election in 2020. He replaced Jeff Sessions, who was re-elected in 2014."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostIt's been frequently reported upon, e.g.: "President Donald Trump’s nominee for the Supreme Court once wrote that sitting presidents should be immune from criminal investigation because their job is too important and prosecution would be a burdensome distraction." Given Trump's woes re the Mueller investigation and that it may well end up in the Supreme Court, one could see how this would be an attractive quality in a justice.
http://www.newsweek.com/brett-kavana...immune-1015521
Certainly, given Trump's oft stated opinion of women and the accusations against him by many aggrieved women. .
ETA: Further, in reality Kavanaugh’s expressed views actually support the opposite of what you claim. He said that a president can be investigated and maybe even indicted unless Congress passes a law saying he can’t -- which Congress has not done. In 2009, Kavanaugh proposed that Congress could pass a law that would protect the president from investigation and indictment while in office. That’s the part that liberals are focusing on now since Kavanaugh was saying that he thought it was a bad idea to go after the president and called doing so debatable.Last edited by rogue06; 07-15-2018, 08:21 AM.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostInteresting that you choose to go with an interpretation of what he said rather than quoting what he actually said. The solution is simple. Impeach (remove from office) and then you can do all the rest.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostInteresting that you choose to go with an interpretation of what he said rather than quoting what he actually said. The solution is simple. Impeach (remove from office) and then you can do all the rest.
ETA: Further, in reality Kavanaugh’s expressed views actually support the opposite of what you claim. He said that a president can be investigated and maybe even indicted unless Congress passes a law saying he can’t -- which Congress has not done. In 2009, Kavanaugh proposed that Congress could pass a law that would protect the president from investigation and indictment while in office. That’s the part that liberals are focusing on now since Kavanaugh was saying that he thought it was a bad idea to go after the president and called doing so debatable.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostAnd the "while in office" part is important. As I understood Kavanaugh's writing, he believes Congress should craft a law *deferring* such investigations, not *eliminating* them.
Of course, this was him recommending a policy decision, which is different from it being something he would insist on as a judge. I also wonder, even if he would try to enforce that as a Supreme Court justice, under what circumstances he would actually have any opportunity to.
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Um, I think that a Congressional investigation is not what he has in mind. He's probably talking about Special Prosecutors."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Chucky Schumer is SO cute....
A) We WILL NOT REST until Javanaugh is DEFEATED!!!!
2) We need to see ALL the records so we can make up our mind!
Ready - FIRE..... um... oh yeah, aim.
chuck.jpgThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostInteresting that you choose to go with an interpretation of what he said rather than quoting what he actually said. The solution is simple. Impeach (remove from office) and then you can do all the rest.
ETA: Further, in reality Kavanaugh’s expressed views actually support the opposite of what you claim. He said that a president can be investigated and maybe even indicted unless Congress passes a law saying he can’t -- which Congress has not done. In 2009, Kavanaugh proposed that Congress could pass a law that would protect the president from investigation and indictment while in office. That’s the part that liberals are focusing on now since Kavanaugh was saying that he thought it was a bad idea to go after the president and called doing so debatable.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWhich would put a president above the law which is both stupid and dangerous. How would you like it if a treasonous autocratic scoundrel like Trump were above the law?
The pro-side is you don't waste a lot of the public's time on things like Whitewater. The con side is it leaves a big question mark over an administration.
I actually prefer the idea - but I don't think we should implement it. I think the cons outweigh the pros even if I do like it conceptually."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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