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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostChernobyl was a terrible design; it was a disaster waiting to happen. US-designed reactors are much safer (on the other hand, the US is about the only country using nuclear power that doesn't reprocess its spent fuel, but merely lets it pile up).
Yeah, I have often wondered about that. If it's still radioactive, there have got to be applications other than shove it in a salt mine and hope for the best."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostUm, you realize one Chernobyl type disaster and you also wouldn't have a country.... Just saying...
I personally think storing the nuclear waste on the surface in huge concrete drums like they do in Bulgaria is the best option. The drums are far too large to steal, or to drill into without any noticing, and still big enough that a pregnant woman can walk around them without any big risk due to radiation.
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Originally posted by seer View PostIt's a big Lego ship!"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostHmmm... good question actually. Likely Germany I imagine."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostYeah because we'll build nuclear reactors the way they did it sixty years ago when they developing prototypes using slide rules and without any industrial experience.
I personally think storing the nuclear waste on the surface in huge concrete drums like they do in Bulgaria is the best option. The drums are far too large to steal, or to drill into without any noticing, and still big enough that a pregnant woman can walk around them without any big risk due to radiation."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostYeah, I'm not seeing that one outside Third World and the former Soviet bloc (at least for now). It's hard to open a landfill here - how the heck would you convince people to let you store radioactive waste in their back yards? The mob would form faster than you can yelp 'NIMBY'!
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostChernobyl was a terrible design; it was a disaster waiting to happen.
Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI personally think storing the nuclear waste on the surface in huge concrete drums like they do in Bulgaria is the best option. The drums are far too large to steal, or to drill into without any noticing, and still big enough that a pregnant woman can walk around them without any big risk due to radiation.
A lot of the next-generation fission reactors being discussed and on drawing-boards currently will be able to use nuclear fuel much more efficiently so they'll be able to use current nuclear waste as input fuel, and also generate very very little waste themselves and it will be relatively short-lived waste.
I think the world has got a bit distracted by the advances in solar and wind that people don't realize that nuclear is a really good option and that the power grids of the future will probably be a combination of nuclear fission, solar, and wind."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostDoesn't the US have enormous areas of basically nothing? You're pretty sparsely populated in that country. There's gotta be a better plan than hollowing out a mountain. Building a warehouse, next to a military base (if that makes people feel more safe), and stuffing it full of heavy cylinders of glass/concrete seems about the best thing to do with the waste. It wouldn't even take up that much space, certainly much less than the ash dumps from coal power plants (which people conveniently forget) and would be a heck of a lot cheaper.
Those of us old enough to remember Gomer Pyle aren't gonna be too keen on the military base idea, either...
Coal ash/soot actually has an historic use as fertilizer - I'd assumed that it was used for that. With the new emphasis on organics, that may change.
Seriously, yeah, it probably could be done - but old salt mines are underground where no one has to see the stuff - and can be more readily secured (so it's argued). Nuclear waste is one of the few that simply can't be recycled in a reasonable time frame (sure it becomes lead eventually...) not due to economic constraints but due to its own composition. That is what soured me on nuclear power years ago."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostIt's easy to do that in a tiny, flat country. They probably wonder what first gear is good for....
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostThose enormous areas are usually public land - either in use as cattle grazing or set aside as national parks and refuges. Nuclear waste isn't likely to go over well in either 'where your dinner eats its dinner' or 'treasured wilderness, parks, et al'.
Those of us old enough to remember Gomer Pyle aren't gonna be too keen on the military base idea, either...
Coal ash/soot actually has an historic use as fertilizer - I'd assumed that it was used for that. With the new emphasis on organics, that may change.
Seriously, yeah, it probably could be done - but old salt mines are underground where no one has to see the stuff - and can be more readily secured (so it's argued). Nuclear waste is one of the few that simply can't be recycled in a reasonable time frame (sure it becomes lead eventually...) not due to economic constraints but due to its own composition. That is what soured me on nuclear power years ago.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Is there any possibility that technology will evolve to the point where nuclear waste can be disposed of in space in a cost effective manner?"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostIs there any possibility that technology will evolve to the point where nuclear waste can be disposed of in space in a cost effective manner?Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Postbecause there's the danger of a rocket malfunction (which invariably leads to an explosion, and now you're spreading radioactive material where you don't want it)."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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