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    12 Russians accused of hacking Democrats in 2016 US election

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Twelve Russian intelligence officers were indicted on charges they hacked into Democratic email accounts during the 2016 U.S. presidential election and released stolen information in the months before Americans headed to the polls, the Justice Department said Friday.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/12-russia...-politics.html
    Of course, you probably won't hear much about this part of the report:

    "The indictment does not allege that Trump campaign associates were involved in the hacking efforts or that any American was knowingly in contact with Russian intelligence officers. The indictment also does not allege that any vote tallies were altered by hacking".
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    I recall there being unsuccessful hacking attempts on Republican email accounts as well - but nobody on that side took the phishing bait. Like the last round of indicting Russians, this appears to be mostly grandstanding, as it is unlikely they'd ever be brought to trial.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by seer View Post
      Of course, you probably won't hear much about this part of the report:

      "The indictment does not allege that Trump campaign associates were involved in the hacking efforts or that any American was knowingly in contact with Russian intelligence officers. The indictment also does not allege that any vote tallies were altered by hacking".
      Very important for fellow that ASKED the Russians to go find Hillary's missing emails ...
      My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

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      • #4
        Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
        Very important for fellow that ASKED the Russians to go find Hillary's missing emails ...
        You think they were located on Democratic email servers or something?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
          Very important for fellow that ASKED the Russians to go find Hillary's missing emails ...
          So? And did the Russians have them? Were they released?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
            I recall there being unsuccessful hacking attempts on Republican email accounts as well - but nobody on that side took the phishing bait. Like the last round of indicting Russians, this appears to be mostly grandstanding, as it is unlikely they'd ever be brought to trial.
            Or they'll contest the charges, and Dirty Cop Mueller will pull another "No fair, you weren't supposed to actually show up!" routine like he did with the Russian troll indictments.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
              Very important for fellow that ASKED the Russians to go find Hillary's missing emails ...
              Jim, you're usually far more accurate than this. Here's what Trump actually said. “I will tell you this, Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press,”

              You'll note there's no question mark there, so it's not an ask. It's more of a taunt of the press....
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                Meanwhile Trump still plans to meet privately with Putin in 2 days.

                Imagine you were a politician and there was speculation and rumor and investigation into impropriety with goats in your past, would you:
                A) Laugh it off in public, and make sure you never ever meet with or bring up any goats or goat-farmers in your time in office?
                B) Constantly praise goats, meet privately with goats, say how great goats are, refuse to implement congressional sanctions on goats, and act in every way like a person who loves goats?

                Trump keeps opting for B...
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  “I will tell you this, Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press,”
                  And, according to this latest round of indictments, the Russians responded by launching their attacks on the DNC that same day.

                  ~Trump voice~ "It's not collaboration folks. I just asked for something and they did it for me. No collaboration! Sad!"
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                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    And, according to this latest round of indictments, the Russians responded by launching their attacks on the DNC that same day.

                    ~Trump voice~ "It's not collaboration folks. I just asked for something and they did it for me. No collaboration! Sad!"
                    Collusion. That's the buzzword, not collaboration.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Collusion. That's the buzzword, not collaboration.
                      True, collaboration is too long a word to be in Trump's vocab.
                      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        True, collaboration is too long a word to be in Trump's vocab.
                        And collusion has yet to be proved.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          And collusion has yet to be proved.
                          Nope, the meeting in Trump tower was clear collusion. When your son gets an email that literally says "this is part of the Russian government's efforts to help your father" and your son says "love it" and then he and your team meet with the Russian representative to talk about how the Russians have info on your opponent, that's collusion. It's cut and dried and proven.
                          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            Nope, the meeting in Trump tower was clear collusion. When your son gets an email that literally says "this is part of the Russian government's efforts to help your father" and your son says "love it" and then he and your team meet with the Russian representative to talk about how the Russians have info on your opponent, that's collusion. It's cut and dried and proven.
                            Which explains, of course, why Trump is sitting in jail at this very moment.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              Which explains, of course, why Trump is sitting in jail at this very moment.
                              I expect Mueller is aligning his ducks in a row and will issue charges related to this before the year is out, yes. Trump ending up in jail for it would not at all surprise me as an outcome, although I am cynical in the sense that I think the US has gotten so corrupt over the decades that people in power almost never go to jail for their crimes so I suspect Pence pardoning Trump after he's removed from office is probably the most likely outcome.
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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