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Originally posted by seer View PostOf course, you probably won't hear much about this part of the report:
"The indictment does not allege that Trump campaign associates were involved in the hacking efforts or that any American was knowingly in contact with Russian intelligence officers. The indictment also does not allege that any vote tallies were altered by hacking".“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostLet's let him get convicted first, OK? That's a pretty rock solid principle over here."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostSo that's why the audience at the RNC convention were chanting "lock her up!" because Republicans agree it's a rock solid principle in the US that you need a conviction before reaching a personal judgment?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostMeanwhile Trump still plans to meet privately with Putin in 2 days.
Imagine you were a politician and there was speculation and rumor and investigation into impropriety with goats in your past, would you:
A) Laugh it off in public, and make sure you never ever meet with or bring up any goats or goat-farmers in your time in office?
B) Constantly praise goats, meet privately with goats, say how great goats are, refuse to implement congressional sanctions on goats, and act in every way like a person who loves goats?
Trump keeps opting for B...
1.1) Need I remind you of Obama's open mic gaffe? It's difficult for Trump to come across as more blatantly collaborating than that.
2) Trump knows what gets the press's attention. He LOVES attention.
2.2) Meanwhile other things get done (like a few more judicial nominations) which the press totally misses because they're so laser-focused on making Trump look as bad as possible.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post1) Your penchant for exaggeration is amusing.
1.1) Need I remind you of Obama's open mic gaffe? It's difficult for Trump to come across as more blatantly collaborating than that.
2) Trump knows what gets the press's attention. He LOVES attention.
2.2) Meanwhile other things get done (like a few more judicial nominations) which the press totally misses because they're so laser-focused on making Trump look as bad as possible.
Likewise pushing Europe to start picking up the slack and start defending themselves is probably going over like a lead balloon in Moscow.
But Trump is Putin's tool.
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by seer View PostOf course, you probably won't hear much about this part of the report:
"The indictment does not allege that Trump campaign associates were involved in the hacking efforts or that any American was knowingly in contact with Russian intelligence officers. The indictment also does not allege that any vote tallies were altered by hacking".
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostJim, you're usually far more accurate than this. Here's what Trump actually said. “I will tell you this, Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press,”
You'll note there's no question mark there, so it's not an ask. It's more of a taunt of the press....
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, and I'm sure you'd be taking the same stance if this were Obama instead of Trump.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, and I'm sure you'd be taking the same stance if this were Obama instead of Trump."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostNope, the meeting in Trump tower was clear collusion. When your son gets an email that literally says "this is part of the Russian government's efforts to help your father" and your son says "love it" and then he and your team meet with the Russian representative to talk about how the Russians have info on your opponent, that's collusion. It's cut and dried and proven."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI expect Mueller is aligning his ducks in a row and will issue charges related to this before the year is out, yes. Trump ending up in jail for it would not at all surprise me as an outcome, although I am cynical in the sense that I think the US has gotten so corrupt over the decades that people in power almost never go to jail for their crimes so I suspect Pence pardoning Trump after he's removed from office is probably the most likely outcome."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou must be under the mistaken notion that I don't know you Lilpix."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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