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    I don't think Olson does a particularly good job of arguing against Calvinism, even though he's probably the most well known critic of it out there. Most of his arguments fall into two categories: 1) Philosophical arguments inaccessible to most lay readers or 2) Emotional rants about people being in hell without being able to avoid it. This is where what I said earlier about my views on hell making this not a problem for me. I would like to see him interact more with the actual exegetical arguments used for Calvinism.

    (Incidentally, I prefer the term "monergism" to "Calvinism". It was just one small part of what John Calvin wrote about, and the idea goes back at least as far as Augustine, anyway.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I don't think Olson does a particularly good job of arguing against Calvinism, even though he's probably the most well known critic of it out there. Most of his arguments fall into two categories: 1) Philosophical arguments inaccessible to most lay readers or 2) Emotional rants about people being in hell without being able to avoid it. This is where what I said earlier about my views on hell making this not a problem for me. I would like to see him interact more with the actual exegetical arguments used for Calvinism.

    (Incidentally, I prefer the term "monergism" to "Calvinism". It was just one small part of what John Calvin wrote about, and the idea goes back at least as far as Augustine, anyway.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I don't think Olson does a particularly good job of arguing against Calvinism, even though he's probably the most well known critic of it out there. Most of his arguments fall into two categories: 1) Philosophical arguments inaccessible to most lay readers or 2) Emotional rants about people being in hell without being able to avoid it. This is where what I said earlier about my views on hell making this not a problem for me. I would like to see him interact more with the actual exegetical arguments used for Calvinism.
    Yeah. But he seems to be mostly a historical theologian and philosopher, not a Systematic or Biblical theologian or Biblical scholar.

    (Incidentally, I prefer the term "monergism" to "Calvinism". It was just one small part of what John Calvin wrote about, and the idea goes back at least as far as Augustine, anyway.)
    That's a good point. But you never can get away from the need to define terms. Even many Arminians agree that God is the "only One" doing the "work" of salvation, even while affirming that in some sense we "cooperate" with Him.
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