Stone tools found in Texas at least 16,000 years old

[shunyadragon]

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Texas toolmakers add to the debate over who the first Americans were Unearthed spear points and other stone tools go back at least 16,000 years

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[37818]

Well, there are alleged global flood fossils common on both sides of the Atlantic dating some 300,000,000 years ago too.

[rogue06]

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Texas toolmakers add to the debate over who the first Americans were Unearthed spear points and other stone tools go back at least 16,000 years

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The whole Clovis culture being the first ones in America is dead and buried.

[shunyadragon]

Well, there are alleged global flood fossils common on both sides of the Atlantic dating some 300,000,000 years ago too.

Odd confusing answer needs explanation. The tools were not found in flood deposits, and where did you get the date 300,000,000 million years ago.

[rogue06]

Odd confusing answer needs explanation. The tools were not found in flood deposits, and where did you get the date 300,000,000 million years ago.

Especially since it was announced just a few days ago that the earliest tools found outside of Africa where discovered at the Shangchen palaeolithic archaeological site in Shaanxi, China which date to 2.12 mya.

Source: Tools from China are oldest hint of human lineage outside Africa

2.1-million-year-old stone tools suggest hominins reached East Asia much earlier than thought

Hominins reached Asia at least 2.1 million years ago, researchers assert in an 11 July NatureSource

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Source: Hominin occupation of the Chinese Loess Plateau since about 2.1 million years ago

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[37818]

Well, if a global flood occurred some 300,000,000 years ago then any younger finds would be a post era to that flood.

[Littlejoe]

Honest question, how do you determine a stone tools approx. age of manufacture?

[shunyadragon]

Well, if a global flood occurred some 300,000,000 years ago then any younger finds would be a post era to that flood.

Where did the idea of a world flood 300 million years ago come from? An alien message from space?

[rogue06]

Honest question, how do you determine a stone tools approx. age of manufacture?

Several possible ways. If they're found at a site that can be dated and if they were used and have traces of organic material on them that could be dated immediately spring to mind.

[shunyadragon]

Honest question, how do you determine a stone tools approx. age of manufacture?

There are new methods that can date the isotopes on oxidation of tools surfaces, but I do not know enough about this method. Stone tools found outside settlements are difficult to date, stone tools at times can be dated by style as with Clovis tools. Enough settlements with Clovis tools have been found to date that style of tool.

In this case the tools were found at this continuously occupied site over thousands of years in discrete layers, and this culture and tools is the lowest inhabited layer. There were carbon materials in each layers associated with different tools in each layer. On the site more advanced Clovis tools were found in layers 13,000 years old and it is correlated as roughly the same period as other Clovis sites.. Later layers found settlement and different tools only a few thousand years old.

Previously the Clovis culture was the oldest dated culture in America. This is no longer the case.

[shunyadragon]

This well documented find confirms the following less well documented two finds:

[rogue06]

This well documented find confirms the following less well documented two finds:

IIRC it was the Monte Verde site in South America that really broke open the flood gates concerning the realization that humans were in the Americas prior to the Clovis culture.

[shunyadragon]

IIRC it was the Monte Verde site in South America that really broke open the flood gates concerning the realization that humans were in the Americas prior to the Clovis culture.

The Monte Verde site, now dated ~14,800 confirms the model of coastal migration model, and fits the time line of the Texas site, Meadowcroft and Cactus Hill sites.

[shunyadragon]

The Bluefish cave site in the Yukon, Alaska dated ~24,000 also fits the model of coastal migration beginning human presence in America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluefish_Caves