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  • #31
    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    You just proved his point about if a member of a normally liberal group steps out of line, they are ostracized and not tolerated.
    No, I thought he was a moron before he stepped out of line. His stepping out of line hasn't changed my opinion of his incompetence.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
      I don't mind speech codes in private institutions.
      They extend into public universities and colleges and I cannot think of many institutes of higher learning that don't get a lot of tax money.

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        No, I thought he was a moron before he stepped out of line. His stepping out of line hasn't changed my opinion of his incompetence.
        sure. That's the ticket. Just like how Germany all of a sudden was always worse than the USA when I posted about what they thought of LBGT

        But regardless, It still shows your liberal intolerance for members of normally liberal groups when they step out of line and don't spout the party line. I have a black friend who is a Republican. He gets called traitor, and Uncle Tom and all sorts of names by liberals because he doesn't agree with their politics.

        Same thing here.
        Last edited by Sparko; 07-17-2018, 08:25 AM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          Nice. You just proved his point about if a member of a normally liberal group steps out of line, they are ostracized and not tolerated. Thanks for the example.

          And heaven help them if they're from a minority. How dare they step off the plantation.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            I have a black friend who is a Republican. He gets called traitor, and Uncle Tom and all sorts of names by liberals because he doesn't agree with their politics.
            Surely it's at least a cause for head-scratching if you see someone who's got a rather weird-seeming allegiance. e.g. if you encountered someone who was really, really, pro-life, but was a democrat, wouldn't that have you scratching your head?
            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              Surely it's at least a cause for head-scratching if you see someone who's got a rather weird-seeming allegiance. e.g. if you encountered someone who was really, really, pro-life, but was a democrat, wouldn't that have you scratching your head?
              Democrat bigots don't allow pro-life.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Democrat bigots don't allow pro-life.
                Why would a pro life leftist confuse me? I see pro life people in several groups be they libertarians using the nap and other moral and scientific arguements, anarcho capitalist doing much the same as lobertarians, distributist trying to uphopd a biblical idea of social justice, moderates who want to protect the defenseless, and i wouldnt be surprised if even some atheist oppose abortion.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  Surely it's at least a cause for head-scratching if you see someone who's got a rather weird-seeming allegiance. e.g. if you encountered someone who was really, really, pro-life, but was a democrat, wouldn't that have you scratching your head?
                  Frederick Douglass the abolitionist and self taught editor who famously wrote works such as The narrate of the life of frederick douglass was a conservative and former slave. People come to their beliefs by a variety of means one of them can be honest evaluation.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    Really, I never would have known... oh, wait, he tells us this approximately every ten minutes. In between telling us identity politics is The Worst.
                    I guess you haven't heard about that "Gay Pride" thing, eh?

                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    Surely it's at least a cause for head-scratching if you see someone who's got a rather weird-seeming allegiance. e.g. if you encountered someone who was really, really, pro-life, but was a democrat, wouldn't that have you scratching your head?
                    Kinda like that, eh? Gay married man....
                    Last edited by Cow Poke; 07-17-2018, 09:41 AM.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      Surely it's at least a cause for head-scratching if you see someone who's got a rather weird-seeming allegiance. e.g. if you encountered someone who was really, really, pro-life, but was a democrat, wouldn't that have you scratching your head?
                      No. I have friends right here who are very liberal and prolife. Leonhard is one. King's Gambit is another. Heck even Carpedm was prolife and a liberal democrat AND an atheist! So was Sea Sanctuary.

                      I don't call them traitors. They can choose their own political parties and ideology. I TOLERATE their political beliefs, not demand they agree with mine.

                      Tolerate means you DON'T agree with someone, but allow them to have their own views. I can even argue and disagree with them openly and that is fine too. The line comes when someone is demonized and outcast for not agreeing with you.

                      Being black isn't the same as being liberal. There are black people who are libertarians, socialists, democrats, republicans, communists, etc. And generally even if a black person says they are socialist or communist or some other left leaning ideology, they are accepted. But if they say they are right-wing, then they are ostracized.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                        Being black isn't the same as being liberal. There are black people who are libertarians, socialists, democrats, republicans, communists, etc. And generally even if a black person says they are socialist or communist or some other left leaning ideology, they are accepted. But if they say they are right-wing, then they are ostracized.
                        The left will tell you that those blacks who aren't liberal aren't really black.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          Surely it's at least a cause for head-scratching if you see someone who's got a rather weird-seeming allegiance. e.g. if you encountered someone who was really, really, pro-life, but was a democrat, wouldn't that have you scratching your head?
                          As others have suggested, that's only confusing if you're intolerant of opposing ideas. I support a third-party political group that's largely comprised of Republicans who liked too many liberal ideas and Democrats who liked too many conservative ideas(you can't even imagine the internal bickering). I agree with 90% of their platform, and decided that I could tolerate the 10% I didn't agree with.

                          I mean... have you read the DNC platform, from start to finish? There's social issues, economic issues, environmental issues... A person may be in favor of democratic environmental policy but not care a whit about gay rights. Those ideas don't necessarily have anything to do with each other, beyond being 'things liberals have to agree on.' Really, I don't care about the person in this article, it's still a real phenomenon. I've had Obama-supporting, social-justice loving, vote straight Democrat every single election, religious watchers of Samantha Bee/Daily Show/John Oliver admit to me that they don't like what's happening to the left. Never heard them speak ill of liberals until a few years ago.

                          Just because McCarthism came from the conservative side doesn't make the left infallible, and it doesn't mean they can't get worse.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by LeaC View Post
                            ...Really, I don't care about the person in this article, it's still a real phenomenon.
                            Yes, so the only way Star can oppose the article is by attacking the source, which is something he pretends to denounce. But here it is on public display! And Star is attacking the gay married man!


                            SIDEBAR --- Our phone lines at a computer client died, and I called AT&T to report it. They asked if I was an employee. I told them no, and I asked why that mattered. They said they can only take reports of outages from employees of the company.

                            So, I hung up, called back, and reported the outage - they asked if I was an employee, and I said, "yes" (I was an outside consultant, so it was a bit of a stretch) and they took the complaint, did their little line test, and verified the lines were dead.

                            They would have been JUST as dead if I had called in as a contractor!
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              so what you are saying is that you agree with the video that the left is intolerant, but you just try to justify why their intolerance is called for and a good thing. Got it.
                              The left is tolerant so long as you don't support oppression. If you want to call that intolerance, that's fine with me.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
                                The left is tolerant so long as you don't support oppression. If you want to call that intolerance, that's fine with me.
                                Who gets to decide what oppression is?

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