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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostWhy would I not know about the goings on of my own group?
2) You don't know everybody - or even the majority of people - in that group.
You're just trying to make the left's intolerance sound noble.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostWhy would I not know about the goings on of my own group?"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostBecause, secretly, hidden deep within the left, which nobody at all on the left knows about and are completely ignorant of because they affect nothing the left every says or does, and yet secretly control everything it does, are the agents of "cultural marxism" which is a Definitely A Meaningful Phrase and Totally Not Nonsense, and hence all the leftists are ignorant of their own true agendas. #AlexJonesThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostDo you have fever or chills with these little outbursts?"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostAlways a grin, and occasionally a laugh.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostBecause, secretly, hidden deep within the left, which nobody at all on the left knows about and are completely ignorant of because they affect nothing the left every says or does, and yet secretly control everything it does, are the agents of "cultural marxism" which is a Definitely A Meaningful Phrase and Totally Not Nonsense, and hence all the leftists are ignorant of their own true agendas. #AlexJones"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Poststudies have shown those in the left are far more ignorant on what the right believes and why vs the opposite."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostLinks?In a study I did with Jesse Graham and Brian Nosek, we tested how well liberals and conservatives could understand each other. We asked more than two thousand American visitors to fill out the Moral Foundations Qyestionnaire. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out normally, answering as themselves. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out as they think a “typical liberal” would respond. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out as a “typical conservative” would respond. This design allowed us to examine the stereotypes that each side held about the other. More important, it allowed us to assess how accurate they were by comparing people’s expectations about “typical” partisans to the actual responses from partisans on the left and the right)’ Who was best able to pretend to be the other?
The results were clear and consistent. Moderates and conservatives were most accurate in their predictions, whether they were pretending to be liberals or conservatives. Liberals were the least accurate, especially those who described themselves as “very liberal.” The biggest errors in the whole study came when liberals answered the Care and Fairness questions while pretending to be conservatives. When faced with questions such as “One of the worst things a person could do is hurt a defenseless animal” or ”Justice is the most important requirement for a society,” liberals assumed that conservatives would disagree. If you have a moral matrix built primarily on intuitions about care and fairness (as equality), and you listen to the Reagan [i.e., conservative] narrative, what else could you think? Reagan seems completely unconcerned about the welfare of drug addicts, poor people, and gay people. He’s more interested in fighting wars and telling people how to run their sex lives.
https://theindependentwhig.com/haidt...conservatives/"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostIn a study I did with Jesse Graham and Brian Nosek, we tested how well liberals and conservatives could understand each other. We asked more than two thousand American visitors to fill out the Moral Foundations Qyestionnaire. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out normally, answering as themselves. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out as they think a “typical liberal” would respond. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out as a “typical conservative” would respond. This design allowed us to examine the stereotypes that each side held about the other. More important, it allowed us to assess how accurate they were by comparing people’s expectations about “typical” partisans to the actual responses from partisans on the left and the right)’ Who was best able to pretend to be the other?
The results were clear and consistent. Moderates and conservatives were most accurate in their predictions, whether they were pretending to be liberals or conservatives. Liberals were the least accurate, especially those who described themselves as “very liberal.” The biggest errors in the whole study came when liberals answered the Care and Fairness questions while pretending to be conservatives. When faced with questions such as “One of the worst things a person could do is hurt a defenseless animal” or ”Justice is the most important requirement for a society,” liberals assumed that conservatives would disagree. If you have a moral matrix built primarily on intuitions about care and fairness (as equality), and you listen to the Reagan [i.e., conservative] narrative, what else could you think? Reagan seems completely unconcerned about the welfare of drug addicts, poor people, and gay people. He’s more interested in fighting wars and telling people how to run their sex lives.
https://theindependentwhig.com/haidt...conservatives/"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostLinks? LINKS?!?!?! You DARE ask for LINKS?!?!?!
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostHaidt does some interesting research which I always enjoy reading even if I often differ to him about how to interpret his findings. In this case I would wonder if people in his surveys aren't interpreting some words differently to each other (e.g. 'justice' can mean something quite different for liberals (helping the oppressed) than conservatives (punishing the guilty)). I've seen enough other studies and data over the years that one study's not going to convince me of the generalization you are trying to make, but it's nice to see you actually have some data/evidence for once for a point you're trying to make.Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 07-19-2018, 10:07 PM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Here are some of the tolerant friends of the left....
Troubled waters: Maxine Waters fans BURN THE FLAG and protest Trump outside her LA office after she warned right-wing militia were planning to demonstrate there... but they never turned up
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostHere are some of the tolerant friends of the left....
Troubled waters: Maxine Waters fans BURN THE FLAG and protest Trump outside her LA office after she warned right-wing militia were planning to demonstrate there... but they never turned up
Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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