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  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

    JimL is a blithering idiot
    ^It's documented!! Documents don't lie!

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    • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      From the Oxford Dictionary:
      Document
      NOUN
      Pronunciation /ˈdɒkjʊm(ə)nt/
      A piece of written, printed, or electronic matter that provides information or evidence or that serves as an official record.



      JimL is a blithering idiot



      Hmm... maybe jimmy has a point here.
      He wants SO BADLY to be relevant.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Can you please provide the exact terms of that deal?
        Robert Mueller, "the lead Russia investigator, asked a federal court in Alexandria, Virginia Tuesday to dismiss a series of criminal charges against Gates, including tax and bank fraud, in exchange for his guilty plea and testimony in the wider probe into the 2016 presidential election."

        https://www.politico.eu/article/robe...-russia-probe/

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        • Originally posted by JimL View Post
          Doesn't matter since his testimony is backed up by documentation. Documents don't lie!
          So false reports have never been filed, Jimmy?
          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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          • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
            So false reports have never been filed, Jimmy?
            Yes, all of the banks, the managers, the ceo's, the e-mails and even Manafort himself, all conspired against him. You people truly will believe anything, won't you? It's no wonder you're Trumpsters!

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            • Originally posted by JimL View Post
              Yes, all of the banks, the managers, the ceo's, the e-mails and even Manafort himself, all conspired against him. You people truly will believe anything, won't you? It's no wonder you're Trumpsters!
              "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
              GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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              • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                Yes, all of the banks, the managers, the ceo's, the e-mails and even Manafort himself, all conspired against him. You people truly will believe anything, won't you? It's no wonder you're Trumpsters!
                You can trust people who are willing to lie in person to never, ever put a false statement in a document. Honest!
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                • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                  Robert Mueller, "the lead Russia investigator, asked a federal court in Alexandria, Virginia Tuesday to dismiss a series of criminal charges against Gates, including tax and bank fraud, in exchange for his guilty plea and testimony in the wider probe into the 2016 presidential election."

                  https://www.politico.eu/article/robe...-russia-probe/
                  Not what I asked for, but thanks for playing. I found the actual plea deal online.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                    You can trust people who are willing to lie in person to never, ever put a false statement in a document. Honest!
                    And any competent prosecutor will do everything he can to keep a key witness from being documented as a liar because it makes his credibility easy pickings for the defense. The fact that this is best Mueller has suggests that he has a weak case.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      And any competent prosecutor will do everything he can to keep a key witness from being documented as a liar because it makes his credibility easy pickings for the defense. The fact that this is best Mueller has suggests that he has a weak case.
                      Yeah, I've seen time and time again where the prosecutor (or defense, either one) will play the game "ok, so you were lying then, but you're telling the truth now.... how can we tell?" and "ok, so when you said [ xyz ], were you lying then" and, my personal favorite, "so, when you were sworn in and promised to tell the truth....".
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                        You can trust people who are willing to lie in person to never, ever put a false statement in a document. Honest!
                        Not when the statements documented are made by the defendent himself. Honest! Gates could, if he were stupid, lie in his testimony, but that isn't going to change the facts as testified to by all the other witnesses as well as the documentation. Sheesh, wake up!

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                        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          And any competent prosecutor will do everything he can to keep a key witness from being documented as a liar because it makes his credibility easy pickings for the defense. The fact that this is best Mueller has suggests that he has a weak case.
                          Stop exposing your idiocy, MM. There are multiple witnesses as well as the documentation of those witnesses not the least of which is the documentation of Manafort himself.

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                          • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            And any competent prosecutor will do everything he can to keep a key witness from being documented as a liar because it makes his credibility easy pickings for the defense. The fact that this is best Mueller has suggests that he has a weak case.
                            both corrupt and had financial ties to Russia. One wonders why Trump, whom as we all know only ever chooses the best people, appointed them.

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                            • It looks like the federal judge castigated the federal prosecutors yesterday for misrepresenting evidence about her having an affair with a Republican consultant (making it look like she was offering sex to gain information and access). From the Washington Post:

                              Source: Judge orders Butina to remain in jail, lashes out at attorneys for missteps

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                              To be fair the judge also chastised the defense attorney for going on TV and discussing details of the case.
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