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  • #16
    Originally posted by Charles View Post
    when I was a conservative Christian.
    ECREE!!!!

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    • #17
      Here is a typical liberal feeding frenzy of turning on their own.

      Zuckerberg, CEO of Facebook is very liberal. But he believes everyone should have a voice on facebook, even people who he doesn't agree with. You know, tolerance. Free Speech. All that liberal stuff liberals are supposed to be for?

      Well apparently not! The liberal piranhas have turned against him for merely saying that he is for such values on facebook.


      Zuckerberg: I’m Jewish, and there’s a set of people who deny that the Holocaust happened.

      I find that deeply offensive. But at the end of the day, I don’t believe that our platform should take that down because I think there are things that different people get wrong. I don’t think that they’re intentionally getting it wrong, but I think-

      Interviewer: In the case of the Holocaust deniers, they might be, but go ahead.

      It’s hard to impugn intent and to understand the intent. I just think, as abhorrent as some of those examples are, I think the reality is also that I get things wrong when I speak publicly. I’m sure you do. I’m sure a lot of leaders and public figures we respect do too, and I just don’t think that it is the right thing to say, “We’re going to take someone off the platform if they get things wrong, even multiple times.” (Update: Mark has clarified these remarks here: “I personally find Holocaust denial deeply offensive, and I absolutely didn’t intend to defend the intent of people who deny that.”)

      What we will do is we’ll say, “Okay, you have your page, and if you’re not trying to organize harm against someone, or attacking someone, then you can put up that content on your page, even if people might disagree with it or find it offensive.” But that doesn’t mean that we have a responsibility to make it widely distributed in News Feed. I think we, actually, to the contrary-


      So basically since he said he will allow Holocaust deniers to post on facebook, he is apparently a Nazi himself now. The liberal media is having a field day with this.

      https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44883743

      Zuckerberg is Jewish, BTW.

      If Facebook just started taking down contrary opinions, like the liberals seem to want, it will be nothing but LeftBook, the Site for patting yourself on the back™

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        If Facebook just started taking down contrary opinions, like the liberals seem to want, it will be nothing but LeftBook, the Site for patting yourself on the back™
        I suspect they'd be quite happy with that.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
          I suspect they'd be quite happy with that.
          Probably. But that just proved the point that liberals are only interested in conformity, not diversity.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            Probably. But that just proved the point that liberals are only interested in conformity, not diversity.
            We've seen the the interest of conservatives in "diversity" during the Immigration debate...everyone different must be kept out of the country.
            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              We've seen the the interest of conservatives in "diversity" during the Immigration debate...everyone different must be kept out of the country.
              That's just a flat out lie - we readily welcome LEGAL immigrants.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                That's just a flat out lie - we readily welcome LEGAL immigrants.
                I am still baffled as to how the Americans can live with the consequences children have to pay when their parents enter (or did enter) illegaly. The children are not illegal in any way, shape or form but they have to pay the price of a treatment that resembles torture while the administration smilingly quotes Romans 13.
                "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Charles View Post
                  I am still baffled as to how the Americans can live with the consequences children have to pay when their parents enter (or did enter) illegaly.
                  That's a very tragic thing - and, as I have said repeatedly, neither side really wants to actually solve the problem - they both just want to use this for a political football.

                  The children are not illegal in any way, shape or form but they have to pay the price of a treatment that resembles torture while the administration smilingly quotes Romans 13.
                  You'll have to address that to somebody who uses or supports that argument, Charles.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #24
                    The original study is behind a paywall, so I can't share it with you.

                    I read the results of the various studies, and they seem fairly robust. They did adequate controls for religiosity and where the persons lived as well, and replicated the findings using results from European surveys. I'd love to see someone else duplicate the findings (there seriously isn't enough replication in science), but at least on a first hand perspective it seems a sound enough result.

                    I'm rather curious about what it means.

                    It should be noted that what they were discussing specifically was meaningfulness of life, and not satisfaction with life, which are two different but slightly correlated values. The correlation for satisfaction with life was not as strong as the reports about meaningfulness of life, though there was still a weak correlation.

                    Before reading this study I was pretty sure it would just show that it was the religiosity that was the cause, but that it remained significantly (albiet somewhat weaker) even after that had been controlled for is a bit surprising to me.

                    The researchers themselves are a bit careful about possible conclusions.

                    Source: Newman & Schwarz 2018

                    Given the correlational nature of the present data, any conjectures about why conservatives report more meaning in life than liberals are to be treated with great caution. It is possible and plausible that third variables, such as a child’s upbringing and community expectations, can foster a conservative political orientation as well as more meaning in life. In such cases, mediation analyses, which assume causal relationships (MacKinnon, Krull, & Lockwood, 2000; Preacher, 2015), can be misleading.

                    © Copyright Original Source

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      That's just a flat out lie - we readily welcome LEGAL immigrants.
                      Unless they're Muslims of course, or asylum seekers from Central America.
                      “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                        We've seen the the interest of conservatives in "diversity" during the Immigration debate...everyone different must be kept out of the country.
                        That is just wrong, Tassy. We have no problem with people entering the country legally. My own mother was an immigrant.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                          Unless they're Muslims of course, or asylum seekers from Central America.
                          If they enter legally, then there is no problem. Asylum seekers implies SEEKING asylum, not sneaking into the country in the dead of night. There are proper channels to go through.

                          If you wanted to move to a nice socialist country like Russia, where you would feel more at home, you would need to contact their immigration department, apply for a VISA, and then apply for permanent status in order to move there. If you snuck across the border, you would probably end up in prison awaiting a prisoner exchange to get back to Australia, or just be shot.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                            Unless they're Muslims of course, or asylum seekers from Central America.
                            Your little hate-filled dark heart is really pumping it out this morning -- no, if they're Muslim and/or asylum seekers coming in legally, I have no objection.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #29
                              In a discussion with a friend of mine about this strange split between reporting satisfaction of life, which didn't track with being a conservative (at least not nearly as strongly) and reporting meaningfulness of life, we talked about the midwestern workers. It made me think of grand father who was a farmer, and a very hard life and put six children into the world. "We didn't have much money, but there was plenty to eat." My father would say about that life. They were proud of what they had accomplished.

                              My grandfather on my mothers side was a factory worker, coming from a long line of hard workers too, which he took a great deal of pride in. And maybe its just that pride in work that's shining through in those reports.

                              I'm speculating out the wazoo here of course. Take it with a big grain of salt.



                              This describes my grandfather to a tee.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                                This describes my grandfather to a tee.
                                I think my parents and grandparents worked to hard and too much to have the time to be neurotic or navel gaze. They survived the depression and a World War (two world wars for my grandfathers) so what was there to be unhappy or depressed about?
                                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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