Announcement

Collapse

Civics 101 Guidelines

Want to argue about politics? Healthcare reform? Taxes? Governments? You've come to the right place!

Try to keep it civil though. The rules still apply here.
See more
See less

Mike Pence on how presidents should behave

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    So, again, just a juvenile kabuki dance.
    You should read and understand Scripture.
    "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

    Comment


    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Let me be VERY clear - there is a WHOLE LOT of "not good" about Trump, and, as I have said repeatedly, I voted 'for' him so that...

      A) Hillary would not be POTUS
      2) SCOTUS would not be Hillary's

      Trump was the lesser of two evils, in my opinion.

      Clear enough?
      There is less "not good" about Hillary than Trump IMO. But, that aside, there were 17 Republican candidates for president how come you ended up with Trump?
      “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

      Comment


      • Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
        Yeah but Cow Poke, Trump became the pick of the Republicans. That didn't happen by accident. I have a hard time buying the idea that the majority of conservatives wanted some other guy. I think most conservatives were excited by and wanted Trump.
        There was definitely a we want an outsider to shake things up factor involved. The same thing was happening among the Democrats with Sanders although he didn't stand a chance having to face rigged primaries and debates.

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

        Comment


        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          There was definitely a we want an outsider to shake things up factor involved. The same thing was happening among the Democrats with Sanders although he didn't stand a chance having to face rigged primaries and debates.
          Just saying conservatives can't use the "It as either Hillary or Trump." defense all the time. Conservatives in general, if not specifically (like you guys), wanted Trump. He won the primaries, and it wasn't just a fluke.

          Conservatives picked and elected Trump. If Conservatives had wanted someone else, Trump wouldn't be president.

          Comment


          • Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
            Yeah but Cow Poke, Trump became the pick of the Republicans. That didn't happen by accident. I have a hard time buying the idea that the majority of conservatives wanted some other guy. I think most conservatives were excited by and wanted Trump.
            I don't think "most" wanted him. I don't know anyone that had him as first choice. I hated his obnoxiousness in regard to John McCain (and I'm no McCain fan) and Carly Fiorina. I almost abstained from voting for POTUS in the General. I literally decided when I was at the machine. One thing that helped tip the balance was the fact that he was driving all the right people insane.

            Now, I have far fewer qualms than many of the people here about having voted for him. He goes too far, but I prefer that to the typical polite nerd who gets steamrolled.
            Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

            Beige Federalist.

            Nationalist Christian.

            "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

            Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

            Proud member of the this space left blank community.

            Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

            Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

            Justice for Matthew Perna!

            Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

            Comment


            • Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
              I don't think "most" wanted him. I don't know anyone that had him as first choice.
              Lets just put the facts on the table. These are the results of the primaries. Blue is Trump, yellow is Ted Cruz. Most conservatives wanted Trump. He did not win the primaries by accident. He was someone's first pick. Most conservatives, first pick.

              Maybe not your first pick. Or Cow Poke's first pick. But most of the conservatives out there wanted him over any other guy out there.

              The facts are the facts. Lets not pretend that conservatives simply picked "Not Hillary". They also, largely, picked "Not Cruz", "Not Rubio", "Not Kasich"...

              Comment


              • Originally posted by Charles View Post

                And when it comes to how old I am, you may have heard the following words before:
                Gray hair is a crown of glory; it is gained in a righteous life.
                So you are saying your hair is not gray then?

                Comment


                • Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                  Lets just put the facts on the table. These are the results of the primaries. Blue is Trump, yellow is Ted Cruz. Most conservatives wanted Trump. He did not win the primaries by accident. He was someone's first pick. Most conservatives, first pick.

                  Maybe not your first pick. Or Cow Poke's first pick. But most of the conservatives out there wanted him over any other guy out there.

                  The facts are the facts. Lets not pretend that conservatives simply picked "Not Hillary". They also, largely, picked "Not Cruz", "Not Rubio", "Not Kasich"...

                  Most people could not stand Ted Cruz, so again, it was a choice between two bad choices. Turtles all the way down.

                  I actually wanted Kasich. I was disappointed when Trump came out on top. I figured we had lost at that point.

                  Comment


                  • Originally posted by Charles View Post
                    This thread is about Pence's ideals. Did he acknowledge the grey reality before he himself had the chance to get more power?
                    I don't understand what you're trying to get at here.
                    It is a bit too convenient to have double standards and it makes a rather bad case for claiming he would show true leadership and provides moral guidance if he became president.
                    As I've said before, your assertion of double standards rests entirely on thin air.
                    I have no problem with grey reality,
                    Then post like it; your posts thus far belie your assertion.
                    it is just that some poster are very reluctant to point to Trumps errors and lies. It seems they live in a black and white reality.
                    Careful, you're descending to JimL levels of aping here. Can't you do better than a vague "some poster" accusation?
                    Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                    Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
                    sigpic
                    I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

                    Comment


                    • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                      There is less "not good" about Hillary than Trump IMO.
                      I'm shocked. SHOCKED, I say!

                      But, that aside, there were 17 Republican candidates for president how come you ended up with Trump?
                      Because he won the primary.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

                      Comment


                      • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        So, you based your vote on the moral character of the candidates and you found Trump to be of a higher moral character than Clinton?
                        No, I did not base my vote on the moral character of the candidates. They were more or less equally morally deficient IMO. It took me until I was actually in the voting booth to decide how I was going to vote, and that's never happened to me before. In the end, my vote came down to SCOTUS, not POTUS. Pence on the ticket helped. Go ahead, throw me into the brer patchimpeach Trump.
                        Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                        Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
                        sigpic
                        I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

                        Comment


                        • Originally posted by Charles View Post
                          You should read and understand Scripture.
                          Like the part that says "let your yea be yea and your nay be nay" or "always be ready to give an answer"?

                          You should practice actually answering questions instead of hiding behind scripture out of context!

                          Are you an adult?
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

                          Comment


                          • Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                            Yeah but Cow Poke, Trump became the pick of the Republicans. That didn't happen by accident. I have a hard time buying the idea that the majority of conservatives wanted some other guy. I think most conservatives were excited by and wanted Trump.
                            I can't speak for the majority of conservatives, Leon. I did not vote for Trump in the primary. When it came down to Hillary vs Trump, I went with Trump so that...

                            A) Hillary would not be POTUS
                            2) SCOTUS would not be Hillary's

                            Trump was the lesser of two evils, in my opinion.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

                            Comment


                            • Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                              Lets just put the facts on the table. These are the results of the primaries. Blue is Trump, yellow is Ted Cruz. Most conservatives wanted Trump. He did not win the primaries by accident. He was someone's first pick. Most conservatives, first pick.

                              Maybe not your first pick. Or Cow Poke's first pick. But most of the conservatives out there wanted him over any other guy out there.

                              The facts are the facts. Lets not pretend that conservatives simply picked "Not Hillary". They also, largely, picked "Not Cruz", "Not Rubio", "Not Kasich"...
                              As for me and my house, we voted for somebody else in the primary.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

                              Comment


                              • Originally posted by Charles View Post
                                You should read and understand Scripture.
                                Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones - and your walls are gossamer thin.
                                Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                                Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
                                sigpic
                                I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

                                Comment

                                Related Threads

                                Collapse

                                Topics Statistics Last Post
                                Started by little_monkey, Yesterday, 04:19 PM
                                16 responses
                                87 views
                                0 likes
                                Last Post Mountain Man  
                                Started by whag, 03-26-2024, 04:38 PM
                                53 responses
                                281 views
                                0 likes
                                Last Post Mountain Man  
                                Started by rogue06, 03-26-2024, 11:45 AM
                                25 responses
                                109 views
                                0 likes
                                Last Post rogue06
                                by rogue06
                                 
                                Started by Hypatia_Alexandria, 03-26-2024, 09:21 AM
                                33 responses
                                195 views
                                0 likes
                                Last Post Roy
                                by Roy
                                 
                                Started by Hypatia_Alexandria, 03-26-2024, 08:34 AM
                                84 responses
                                355 views
                                0 likes
                                Last Post JimL
                                by JimL
                                 
                                Working...
                                X