Mike Pence on how presidents should behave

[Mountain Man]

By doing so Pence helped to make sure that a person who was not fit to become the president by Pence's own criteria became the president anyway.

First of all, it was either Trump or Hillary at that point, and Hillary is even less fit than Trump to sit in the Oval Office.

Secondly, just let my post what I wrote earlier:

Show me where Pence has explicitly supported Trump's immorality. Working with or for someone does not imply that you support everything they do and say. Case in point, many of my coworkers swear, drink, and smoke and hit on women when they're out on the road, even some of the attached and married guys. I don't, and I hope that my example can be a positive influence in their lives and a reflection of Christ. I wouldn't be surprised if Mike Pence operates with the same attitude.

I support my boss in so far as it relates to my job. This does not imply that I support and agree with everything he has ever said or done. I believe a boss should set an example by not smoking, but my boss smokes. Does this mean that I am now morally culpable for what I believe is an immoral abuse of one's body? Of course not. That would be absurd.

Pence can fully believe that the President of the US should set a high moral standard while being fully aware of the fact that his current boss is not that person. There is no hypocrisy here no matter how furiously you beat your little self-righteous drum.

I'm out. No more pearls for you.

[Cow Poke]

By doing so Pence helped to make sure that a person who was not fit to become the president by Pence's own criteria became the president anyway.

I'd have to assume he felt like Hillary was a greater threat to the Republic. It was a matter of the evil of two lessers.

That is why I see absolutely no reason to see Pence as some kind of shining moral star. He is ready to work against his own ideas and ideals when it serves his own purpose.

A) Hillary is not POTUS because Trump is
2) SCOTUS is not Hillary's

Judging by the support Trump gets, I get the feeling the cult will not see any problem at all. It's all good....

That's just stupid.

[KingsGambit]

I have seen quite a few people argue that they voted for Trump as a lesser of two evils. If this is truly believed, I would expect to see principled conservatives back a primary challenger.

[One Bad Pig]

I have seen quite a few people argue that they voted for Trump as a lesser of two evils. If this is truly believed, I would expect to see principled conservatives back a primary challenger.

We'll see. It's fairly unusual for a sitting president to have a serious primary challenger. If Trump is viewed as semi-successful, there won't be one.

[Psychic Missile]

And many of us who practice it believe it is, or we wouldn't be doing it.

So then it shouldn't be an issue for anyone who disagrees with me to show what evidence justifies their belief.

The reason that many of us practice it has absolutely nothing to do with Pence.

I don't care about anyone on this forum practicing this policy. I care about the second most prominent person in our government practicing it.

[KingsGambit]

We'll see. It's fairly unusual for a sitting president to have a serious primary challenger. If Trump is viewed as semi-successful, there won't be one.

The word "evil' in "lesser of two evils", a phrase I still frequently see used, would preclude a positive assessment.

[Charles]

I'm out. No more pearls for you.

So not following principles and always finding ways to not hold the Trump administration up to the standards has now become pearls.

Perhaps you should consider whether the biggest damage Hillary caused was for some of the opponents to skip all principles and ideals and justifying everything by the sheer fact that it is not Hillary.

[Tassman]

By doing so Pence helped to make sure that a person who was not fit to become the president by Pence's own criteria became the president anyway. That is why I see absolutely no reason to see Pence as some kind of shining moral star. He is ready to work against his own ideas and ideals when it serves his own purpose. Judging by the support Trump gets, I get the feeling the cult will not see any problem at all. It's all good....

They all are Charles. For all of Pence's mincing 'niceness', so long as Trump promises to get rid of gay rights and women's Freedom of Choice none of them care what Trump does. The hypocrisy is blinding. The only positive outcome is the destruction of the Evangelical's claim to occupy the moral high ground

[Sparko]

I have seen quite a few people argue that they voted for Trump as a lesser of two evils. If this is truly believed, I would expect to see principled conservatives back a primary challenger.

It would depend on who it is, but I would.

If somehow Pence were to run against Trump, I would vote Pence in an instant.

[Mountain Man]

I have seen quite a few people argue that they voted for Trump as a lesser of two evils. If this is truly believed, I would expect to see principled conservatives back a primary challenger.

I plan to give Trump a second term to fully drain the swamp, at which point a principled conservative like Pence might actually stand a chance rather than getting eaten alive by the DC swamp rats who infest both parties.

[Cow Poke]

I have seen quite a few people argue that they voted for Trump as a lesser of two evils. If this is truly believed, I would expect to see principled conservatives back a primary challenger.

If there is one, I most likely will.

[Cow Poke]

So not following principles and always finding ways to not hold the Trump administration up to the standards has now become pearls.

Perhaps you should consider whether the biggest damage Hillary caused was for some of the opponents to skip all principles and ideals and justifying everything by the sheer fact that it is not Hillary.

I think we can recover from Trump. I think Hillary would have been a disaster for decades to come.

[Roy]

It would depend on who it is, but I would.

If somehow Pence were to run against Trump, I would vote Pence in an instant.

Good for you.

[Sparko]

Good for you.

I have always said I don't like Trump. He was my LAST choice out of all of the Republican candidates, but he won the primary and then I was faced with



And "Nope" won.

But having said that, I have been pleasantly surprised by SOME of what Trump has done. And I admire his attempts to keep his campaign promises even when I don't agree with all of them (like 'the border wall' which I think is a waste and a boondoggle). So many politicians will make many promises before their are elected, only to get amnesia immediately after the election.

[Mountain Man]

I have always said I don't like Trump. He was my LAST choice out of all of the Republican candidates, but he won the primary and then I was faced with



And "Nope" won.

But having said that, I have been pleasantly surprised by SOME of what Trump has done. And I admire his attempts to keep his campaign promises even when I don't agree with all of them (like 'the border wall' which I think is a waste and a boondoggle). So many politicians will make many promises before their are elected, only to get amnesia immediately after the election.

My top three in no particular order were Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and Ben Carson. I know too much about John Kasich to know what a weasal he is, so he was never high on my list, and I didn't expect Trump to make it past the first few primaries. When it became clear that Trump was a viable candidate and had the best chance of beating Hillary then I said, "Looks like he's our guy," and happily voted for him on election day. And you know what? He's been a pretty darn good president.