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It will be interesting to see polls in Texas following last night's debate between Cruz and Beto.
Beto abandoned his "nice guy populist" image and came out on the attack, looking like the "typical politician" he so often criticizes.
SAN ANTONIO (AP) — Democrat Beto O'Rourke abandoned his usual message of unity and optimism and laid into Ted Cruz, hoping to reverse polls that show him fading against the Republican incumbent during the second debate of a Texas Senate race that has become one of the nation's most closely watched.
During the opening moments of the debate Tuesday night , Cruz criticized O'Rourke for past votes supporting a never-enacted oil production tax that might have hit oil-rich Texas hard. O'Rourke responded by evoking a moniker President Donald Trump bestowed on the senator when the pair were bitter rivals during the 2016 Republican presidential primary, saying, "Senator Cruz is not going to be honest with you. He's going to make up positions and votes that I've never held."
"It's why the president called him Lyin' Ted," O'Rourke said "and it's why the nickname stuck, because it's true."
A former Ivy League debate champion, Cruz shot back, "It's clear Congressman O'Rourke's pollsters have told him to come out on the attack."
Democrats have long dreamed about a growing Hispanic population helping to flip Texas from red to blue and shaking up the electoral map. But polls that once showed O'Rourke within striking distance of a monumental upset now suggest Cruz may be edging further ahead. No Democrat has won any of Texas' nearly 30 statewide offices since 1994, the country's longest political losing streak.
sourceThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Overall I am pleased with the election. Both sides "won" - The republicans gained a stronger hold over the Senate, and the democrats won control of the house.
Which probably means a stalemate as far as new legislation goes for the next two years. But then it has been pretty much a stalemate so far anyway with the republicans refusing to act on things like healthcare.
But it does mean that there is a chance for even more conservative judges to be appointed to SCOTUS in the next two years. If Ginsburg dies or retires.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostIf Ginsburg dies or retires.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI have no doubt that her retirement plans were immediately changed the moment Hillary lost, because she's never going to retire as long as Trump is in office. At this point, she seems to be taking the concept of a life-time appointment in its most literal sense.
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I have to admit that I'm not sure what all the crowing is about. The election fell in pretty close to in-line with predictions. Dems had a significant chance of taking the house. RCP gave the a window of 8-44 seat pick-up with a median of 26. 538 gave the a 7/8 chance of taking the house, and they did. RCP gave Reps a two seat pickup in the house using their no-toss-ups map, and 538 gave Reps a 5/6 chance of retaining the Senate. It looks like Reps will pick up 2 or 3 seats. The Senate was always a long shot because Dems were defending 25 seats and Reps defending 8. The governor "no toss-ups" split was 24/26. Right now it is 21/25 with 4 races left to resolve.
All in all - while a massive blue wave would have been nice, most of the polls were pretty solid, and the outcomes pretty much in line with predictions. The house so-called "House Popular Vote" was in line with 2010 (0.2% points lower) and above 2014. The smaller pick-up is largely a function of the extreme gerrymandering created by Operation Red Map. State elections were also a solid gain. Dems picked up 6 trifectas taking them to 14 states (I don't think trifectas in a state are good, but at least they are closer to balanced nationally). Reps lost 4 to take them to 22, so they still dominate states. Hopefully that will continue to shift in 2020 until it comes to more of a place of balance. Two split states became trifectas (for Dems) and one remains uncalled (Georgia).
All-in-all, the beginning of a shift back to the center was pretty clear. Now the energy shifts to 2020, looking to continue to balance the states, and get Trump out of the executive office. I'd prefer NOT to have both the legislature and executive in the hands of one party, so my ideal 2020 would be Democrats take the Executive and Senate (to begin trying to undo the imbalance of the judiciary), and Reps retake the house (to provide for some degree of balance ad the need for working together).
And I think we the people should start looking for candidates who are willing to work across the aisle towards solutions, and get those who are unwilling to do so out.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI have to admit that I'm not sure what all the crowing is about.....The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'm just glad I made it to the office this morning without hearing a single political ad on the radio!The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostTo what "crowing" are you referring?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI think we the people should start looking for candidates who are willing to work across the aisle towards solutions, and get those who are unwilling to do so out.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYeah, haven't seen a lot of crowing. Most of the MSM pundits seem to be sobered by the fact that their anticipated "blue wave" petered out into a ripple on the shore.
Disaster averted: Trump just third president in 100 years to gain Senate seats in midterm election while losing House seats
To me, this is really nothing about which to crow.
lost seats.jpgThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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