Blue Waves and Red Waves

[Cow Poke]

So the midterms are taking a decided shift to the right, and the blue wave, if it manifests, is decidedly muted. There is a good chance that Republicans will pick up two seats in the Senate, which is not a huge surprise, given the number of seats being defended by Dems. The best they could have hoped to win was a tie, and even that was a stretch. The house is more disappointing. Reps have picked up five seats in the last week to add to the "leaning/likely/solid" column, bringing them within 4 seats of the Dems with 29 seats tossed up. First to 218, of course, controls the house. It still generally leans (slightly) to Dems, but not by the wave originally hoped for.

More disconcerting is this poll from CNN, suggesting that the general populace thinks there is a significant chance Trump will win re-election in 2020.

How incredibly sad for this country.

How horribly sad for the left of this country.

[Cow Poke]

So the midterms are taking a decided shift to the right, and the blue wave, if it manifests, is decidedly muted.

To what do you attribute this?

[One Bad Pig]

Then he's apparently confused about my stance concerning illegal immigration.

That could very well be. It's been a while since I've seen your stance, and you tend to be so consistently supportive of the left (aside from economics) that it's easy to be lazy and assume.

[Littlejoe]

So the midterms are taking a decided shift to the right, and the blue wave, if it manifests, is decidedly muted. There is a good chance that Republicans will pick up two seats in the Senate, which is not a huge surprise, given the number of seats being defended by Dems. The best they could have hoped to win was a tie, and even that was a stretch. The house is more disappointing. Reps have picked up five seats in the last week to add to the "leaning/likely/solid" column, bringing them within 4 seats of the Dems with 29 seats tossed up. First to 218, of course, controls the house. It still generally leans (slightly) to Dems, but not by the wave originally hoped for.

More disconcerting is this poll from CNN, suggesting that the general populace thinks there is a significant chance Trump will win re-election in 2020.

How incredibly sad for this country.

how droll...It won't be any sadder for the country than 8 years of George W or 8 years of Obama...

[Terraceth]

More disconcerting is this poll from CNN, suggesting that the general populace thinks there is a significant chance Trump will win re-election in 2020.

How is that disconcerting at all? Or even relevant? It's not even a poll about whether they'd vote for or want Trump to win (such a poll would be so premature it'd be almost useless, but it'd at least be something), but whether they think he could win or not. That really doesn't mean anything at all in regards to his odds of winning.

[Leonhard]

The past year I predicted that Trump would get elected again. The Democrats in the US haven't done the work they should have done to win re-election. They're animated, but it hasn't galvanised them. Not yet at least. Its still early, but the longer time goes on now, the smaller their already small chances will get.

[Cerebrum123]

I am increasingly disenchanted with this country. I don't wake up and enjoy checking the news. I don't like what our leaders our doing - or how our citizens are behaving. Why would I want to continue to be a member of a country I am increasingly embarrassed of? I have been considering a shift for some time now. If 2018 and 2020 continue to put very ugly people in positions of political power - I'll probably move on.

If you consider that childish... I'll live with it....

That's how most conservatives felt for all of Obama's time as president.

[rogue06]

That's how most conservatives felt for all of Obama's time as president.

But that was okay.

[Cerebrum123]

The past year I predicted that Trump would get elected again. The Democrats in the US haven't done the work they should have done to win re-election. They're animated, but it hasn't galvanised them. Not yet at least. Its still early, but the longer time goes on now, the smaller their already small chances will get.

If anything I think they are sabotaging themselves.

[Sparko]

Well the Democrats just lost another one of their wavelets...

‘I Stand for the Flag, I Kneel at the Cross’: PA Dem Forced to Resign After Facebook Posts Deemed Offensive

A top Democrat in Pennsylvania said that he was forced to resign due to past Facebook posts that were deemed controversial.

Mark Salvas told CBS 2 Pittsburgh that he was asked by the chair of the Allegheny County Democratic Party to resign, largely because of a photo from last year that showed him and his wife with the words "I stand for the flag, I kneel at the cross."

Democrats in Allegheny County were reportedly offended by his patriotic post, as well as another by his wife that asked to support an officer charged in the fatal shooting of an African-American teen in June.

"I’m not ashamed of my patriotism, not one bit," said Salvas, a Gulf War veteran. "I fought for this country. I think I have a right to have a voice and be patriotic."



http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/10/1...facebook-posts

[One Bad Pig]

Well the Democrats just lost another one of their wavelets...

‘I Stand for the Flag, I Kneel at the Cross’: PA Dem Forced to Resign After Facebook Posts Deemed Offensive

A top Democrat in Pennsylvania said that he was forced to resign due to past Facebook posts that were deemed controversial.

Mark Salvas told CBS 2 Pittsburgh that he was asked by the chair of the Allegheny County Democratic Party to resign, largely because of a photo from last year that showed him and his wife with the words "I stand for the flag, I kneel at the cross."

Democrats in Allegheny County were reportedly offended by his patriotic post, as well as another by his wife that asked to support an officer charged in the fatal shooting of an African-American teen in June.

"I’m not ashamed of my patriotism, not one bit," said Salvas, a Gulf War veteran. "I fought for this country. I think I have a right to have a voice and be patriotic."



http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/10/1...facebook-posts

"Top Democrat" is stretching things a bit; he was the executive director for Allegheny County Democrats. He'd also only been on the job a few weeks. The cynic in me speculates that the party decided he wasn't a good fit and found a reason to get rid of him.

[Cow Poke]

The past year I predicted that Trump would get elected again. The Democrats in the US haven't done the work they should have done to win re-election. They're animated, but it hasn't galvanised them. Not yet at least. Its still early, but the longer time goes on now, the smaller their already small chances will get.

They don't work on issues. They work on emotion.

[carpedm9587]

How horribly sad for the left of this country.

I think it is sad for all of us - but some of us just don't realize it. The man in our White House is now the head of the Republican party. His broad support in that party attests to this. It is now the party of Trump. As they say, a fish rots from its head. If the Republican party has truly dropped to the point where this is the best they can do, then the Republican party has fallen a long way from the days of Lincoln, Roosevelt, and Reagan. And if such a party can win two presidential elections in a row with such a man - then our country as a whole has been sadly diminished.

[carpedm9587]

To what do you attribute this?

Not clear. I suspect the Kavanaugh exchanges energized Reps more than they had been. I also suspect that the Dems are simply not very clear where they want to go. The Reps are almost completely focused on Trump (sadly enough for the party), but the Dems have no such figure. If Sanders can get his mojo together, that might shift for 2020. Meanwhile, Dems lack a clear, resounding message and clear, resounding figures to champion their ideals. Unlike the Reps, which have made the collective decision to slide far to the right (there are comparatively few moderate Reps any more), Dems are still struggling with the left/moderate split.

[carpedm9587]

That could very well be. It's been a while since I've seen your stance, and you tend to be so consistently supportive of the left (aside from economics) that it's easy to be lazy and assume.

My impression is you don't really understand the position of the left, either. You (and others here) have apparently bought into the drivel from the White House that the left somehow WANTS illegal immigration and DOESN'T want security. If the Dems are guilty of anything, it's not being clear about their message, and letting the "simple" (and wrong) message from the right dominate.

After a while, I get weary of the lies...