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  • #31
    Originally posted by Tassman View Post
    The "Legislative Branch of Government" in the Senate seem able to maintain a degree of integrity that is very distinctly lacking in the cesspit of the lower house.
    That may have been true at one time, but as MM has so aptly pointed out, it's the JUDICIAL branch, not the Legislative branch, that protects the Constitution.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #32
      You are obviously not very familiar with the history of the US Senate. People have actually come to blows in the Senate; I'm not sure that's true of the House. Also, Harry Reid? Chuck Schumer? Integrity?
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        And this is why you shouldn't comment on American politics, because you don't understand it.

        It is the job of the JUDICIAL branch to ensure that the Constitution is upheld.
        And it is up to Congress to keep a check on the President. Congress was meant to be the most powerful branch, not the President. I think you knew that when Obama was President, but somehow that escaped you after Trump was elected.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
          You are obviously not very familiar with the history of the US Senate. People have actually come to blows in the Senate; I'm not sure that's true of the House.

          And it wasn't the equivalent of a schoolyard tussle. Brooks nearly killed Sumner as he continued to beat him well after he was unconscious.

          Far less known is the brawl between the two Senators from South Carolina, Tillman and McLaurin in 1902, who when they offered official apologies to the Senate almost came to blows yet again.

          Fighting was more common in the House of Representatives.

          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
          Also, Harry Reid? Chuck Schumer? Integrity?
          Reid? You mean the same Harry Reid who was quite proud of how he lied through his teeth about Mitt Romney not paying income taxes later boasting with a smirk "it worked didn't it?" The same Harry Reid who funneled something like $31,000 in campaign funds to his granddaughter Ryan Elisabeth Reid and tried to conceal it on campaign disclosure forms by listing her as "Ryan Elisabeth"? The same Harry Reid who's sudden announcement of his decision to retire coincidentally took place as a number of probes into corruption started coming to light? Naw. He's an overflowing cup filled with the very cream of human goodness.

          I'm always still in trouble again

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          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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          • #35
            For those obviously unfamiliar with the way the "three EQUAL branches of government" are set up, here is a very basic explanation that should be understandable, even by anybody in this thread.

            Three Branches: Separate but Equal



            The powers of our federal (national) government are divided into three branches: legislative, executive, and judicial. The branches are separate but equal. They each have special responsibilities concerning laws, the principles that govern our nation.

            Legislative Branch
            Congress: Senate (100 members) and the House of Representatives (435 members)

            ** Makes Laws **
            • Creates and passes bills (proposed laws)
            • Approves appointments and treaties (agreements) made by the President
            • Sets and collects taxes
            • Coins money
            • Makes rules for trade between states
            • Declares war



            Executive Branch
            • Signs into law or vetoes (rejects) bills passed by Congress
            • Commands the armed forces
            • Appoints judges, ambassadors, and other federal officials
            • Makes treaties with other countries
            • Receives diplomats from other countries
            • Represents the U.S. at special ceremonies




            Judicial Branch (Supreme Court )

            • Can decide if a law is constitutional
            • Can decide if a Presidential action is constitutional
            • Reviews court cases related to the Constitution and federal laws
            • Reviews cases tried in lower courts




            Adapted from Scholastic Skills Books: Our Nation's Government ("Legislative Branch" and "Judicial Branch" editions).

            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              For those obviously unfamiliar with the way the "three EQUAL branches of government" are set up, here is a very basic explanation that should be understandable, even by anybody in this thread.

              Three Branches: Separate but Equal



              The powers of our federal (national) government are divided into three branches: legislative, executive, and judicial. The branches are separate but equal. They each have special responsibilities concerning laws, the principles that govern our nation.

              Legislative Branch
              Congress: Senate (100 members) and the House of Representatives (435 members)

              ** Makes Laws **
              • Creates and passes bills (proposed laws)
              • Approves appointments and treaties (agreements) made by the President
              • Sets and collects taxes
              • Coins money
              • Makes rules for trade between states
              • Declares war



              Executive Branch
              • Signs into law or vetoes (rejects) bills passed by Congress
              • Commands the armed forces
              • Appoints judges, ambassadors, and other federal officials
              • Makes treaties with other countries
              • Receives diplomats from other countries
              • Represents the U.S. at special ceremonies




              Judicial Branch (Supreme Court )

              • Can decide if a law is constitutional
              • Can decide if a Presidential action is constitutional
              • Reviews court cases related to the Constitution and federal laws
              • Reviews cases tried in lower courts




              Adapted from Scholastic Skills Books: Our Nation's Government ("Legislative Branch" and "Judicial Branch" editions).

              That will come as quite a shock to those who think it's the court's job to make laws.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #37
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                That will come as quite a shock to those who think it's the court's job to make laws.
                Well, yeah, cause they kinda sorta been doing that.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                  It is the job of the JUDICIAL branch to ensure that the Constitution is upheld.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
                    And it is up to Congress to keep a check on the President. Congress was meant to be the most powerful branch, not the President. I think you knew that when Obama was President, but somehow that escaped you after Trump was elected.
                    And this is why you shouldn't comment on American politics. Any grade school student can tell you that each of the three branches are equal in power and designed so as to be a check on the other two.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      And this is why you shouldn't comment on American politics. Any grade school student can tell you that each of the three branches are equal in power and designed so as to be a check on the other two.
                      EGGzackly. There isn't supposed to be a "most powerful branch".
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #41
                        They are all responsible for upholding the Constitution, but it's the Judicial branch that is explicitly tasked with ensuring compliance.

                        Second, you'll have to explain how protecting the Executive branch from an unwarranted investigation that has quickly spun into an out-of-control witch-hunt is unconstitutional.
                        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                        Than a fool in the eyes of God


                        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          They are all responsible for upholding the Constitution, but it's the Judicial branch that is explicitly tasked with ensuring compliance.
                          The system of checks and balances is an important part of the Constitution. With checks and balances, each of the three branches of government can limit the powers of the others. This way, no one branch becomes too powerful.

                          https://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_sepp.html

                          Second, you'll have to explain how protecting the Executive branch from an unwarranted investigation
                          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-senate-panel

                          that has quickly spun into an out-of-control witch-hunt is unconstitutional.
                          Last edited by Tassman; 08-13-2018, 12:50 AM.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            And this is why you shouldn't comment on American politics. Any grade school student can tell you that each of the three branches are equal in power and designed so as to be a check on the other two.
                            Like it or not MM, the Congress is the most powerful branch of the U.S. Government. Whether you understand that or not is irrelevent to the point made. It is the responsibility of Congress to oversee and check the abuse of presidential power and this present Congressional investigation, led by Paul Ryan and Devin Nunez is protecting the administration rather than honestly investigating them.
                            Last edited by JimL; 08-17-2018, 11:16 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              And this is why you shouldn't comment on American politics. Any grade school student can tell you that each of the three branches are equal in power and designed so as to be a check on the other two.
                              JimL must've skipped that class.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                                JimL must've skipped that class.
                                I think he might have skipped all of grade school.
                                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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