Eucharist and Cannibalism

[Jude3b]

I also am a Christian who once was a Roman Catholic. I also know a number of Roman Catholics who are Christians*. Do you somehow find these to be incompatible?


GG

* I also know some Catholics who are not Christians and some "Christians" who are not also.

Yes, I do find it incompatible for true Christians to remain apart of Roman Catholicism! First off, Romanism has another Gospel and a system of religious works. Romanism's plan of salvation - is based on sacramentalism. One who remains in Romanism after becoming a truly saved by Grace, Bible believing Christian - stays there due to ignorance or disobedience.

[Tickle Me Goody]

Yes, I do find it incompatible for true Christians to remain apart of Roman Catholicism! First off, Romanism has another Gospel

I find the Roman Catholic Bible at:

http://www.catholic.org/clife/bible/


Offhand I do not see a difference in the 4 Gospels. Could you point the difference out to me?

Thanks

GG

[kofh2u]

Jude, you are partly right:
"Yes, I do find it incompatible for true Christians to remain apart of Roman Catholicism!"

Church attendence in Europe is down to 20%.

The current events of a revealed sexual magnet in this church for abusive priests is not indictive of a sudden and new modern tendency. The church has been sexual abusive for and throughout most ages, but the Reformatin has helped.

Nevertheless, there are many out of the @ one billion Catholics who have not defiled the tenets of Christianity.

Rev. 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis (the sociological religious community in the time of The Reformed Catholic Church) write; These things saith he that he that hath the seven Spirits of God, (the seven Freudian Archetypes) and the seven stars (Id, Libido, Ego, Anima, Self, Superego, and Harmony); I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest (a long established Church), and art dead (in sacramental doctrines lost in ancient dogma).


Rev. 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis (the time of The Reformed Catholic Church) which have not defiled their garments (with homosexulities and pedaphilia); and they shall walk with me in white (pages of scripture written anew): for they are worthy (in their reformations).

[Jude3b]

I find the Roman Catholic Bible at:

http://www.catholic.org/clife/bible/


Offhand I do not see a difference in the 4 Gospels. Could you point the difference out to me?

Thanks

GG

[Jude3b]

Romanism has a sacramentalism metod of salvation. That is Another Gospel and not what the Bible indicates is the Gospel.

[Tickle Me Goody]

Romanism has a sacramentalism metod of salvation. That is Another Gospel and not what the Bible indicates is the Gospel.

Can you comment on Protestant sacrements (eg Lutheran)?

GG

[Jude3b]

Can you comment on Protestant sacrements (eg Lutheran)?

GG

I am not a Lutheran or a Protestant and therefore do not want to comment out of ignorance on a particular denominations practice. I was a Roman Catholic, so I understand the Sacramentalism that exists in that denomination.

Concerning all denomination however, I will state that sacraments do not save or add to salvation. Only Christ is the savior.

We are told that we must be "born again," for without this experience we are not Christians at all and "can not see the kingdom of God" (John 3:3)

[Tickle Me Goody]

I am not a Lutheran or a Protestant and therefore do not want to comment out of ignorance on a particular denominations practice. I was a Roman Catholic, so I understand the Sacramentalism that exists in that denomination.

That is very interesting. I too was a Roman Catholic and yet I missed all that. I went to the official Catholic web site and discovered the truth of what you say.

http://www.catholic.org/clife/prayers/sacrament.php

Of course, the interesting thing about the RCC is that many of the belivers do and say whatever they want to anyhow -- e.g. J F Kerry.

goody

[Jude3b]

That is very interesting. I too was a Roman Catholic and yet I missed all that. I went to the official Catholic web site and discovered the truth of what you say.

http://www.catholic.org/clife/prayers/sacrament.php

Of course, the interesting thing about the RCC is that many of the belivers do and say whatever they want to anyhow -- e.g. J F Kerry.

goody

Roman Catholicism states that "7 sacraments are necessary" for salvation.

That is "another gospel" - a "false gospel" - JESUS CHRIST is the Way, the Truth and the Life. JESUS CHRIST alone is the door!

If we could be saved by 7 sacraments or by being a Roman Catholic, we would not need a savior!

[Conductor42]

I am not a Lutheran or a Protestant and therefore do not want to comment out of ignorance on a particular denominations practice. I was a Roman Catholic, so I understand the Sacramentalism that exists in that denomination.

By the common definition, you are.

By the strict definition, one who protests against the RCC, you are.

Therefore, you are a Protestant.

[Benedict]

I was a Roman Catholic, so I understand the Sacramentalism that exists in that denomination.

No, you don't.

[Jude3b]

Roman Catholicism states that "7 sacraments are necessary" for salvation.

That is "another gospel" - a "false gospel" - JESUS CHRIST is the Way, the Truth and the Life. JESUS CHRIST alone is the door!

If we could be saved by 7 sacraments or by being a Roman Catholic, we would not need a savior!

I forgot to add for those who are trusting their religions for a hope so salvation that: Jesus Christ said "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (John 3:3)

To be born again, my dear Roman Catholic friends, you must receive Jesus Christ by faith as your personal Savior and trust Him alone for your salvation. When you do this, you will be born into God's family, the bod of Christ - the church of God (see Acts 2:47): "But as many as received him, to them gave he powerr to become the sons of God, even to them tha believe on his name:" (John 1:12).

If you do that, you can claim this promise: "And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life." (I John 2:25)

Say good by Rome, come unto the Master, Lord and Savior - Jesus Christ. He is the only one who can save you!

[Kath]

If I may just add, when Catholics celebrate the Eucharist, the Consecration of the mass is initiated by the Invocation of the Spirit. Being a Trinitarian faith, when the Spirit of God enters the accidents of the sacrafice, we believe that God is truly present in the Eucharist and in partaking of it, we are receiving the living Spirit of God into our hearts and souls.

I know it's possible to assert that Matthew 26:29; "I will not drink from henceforth of this fruit of the vine" contradicts the possibility of receiving Chrsit's blood, but Luke, who is often more chronologically exact, places these words before Jesus' words "This is my body...This is my blood". (22:18)

I know it's a bit outdated, but I've only just joined and I dont think any one has stated this. Thanks.

[WebToaster]

Hey Jude,

(Very) Early Christians were often persecuted in Rome as cannibals because of their belief in drinking the blood and eating the body of Christ. Of course, I doubt you'll have the honesty to explore this subject, but just in case, do a quick search on "christian persecution cannibalism" and see that the imperial Romans had similar beliefs to yours.

[kofh2u]

If I may just add, when Catholics celebrate the Eucharist, the Consecration of the mass is initiated by the Invocation of the Spirit. Being a Trinitarian faith, when the Spirit of God enters the accidents of the sacrafice, we believe that God is truly present in the Eucharist and in partaking of it, we are receiving the living Spirit of God into our hearts and souls.

I know it's possible to assert that Matthew 26:29; "I will not drink from henceforth of this fruit of the vine" contradicts the possibility of receiving Chrsit's blood, but Luke, who is often more chronologically exact, places these words before Jesus' words "This is my body...This is my blood". (22:18)

I know it's a bit outdated, but I've only just joined and I dont think any one has stated this. Thanks.

That Jesus said he would not drink from the cup again until he returns was avreference, as you know I am sure, to the ritual of Passover, where five wines glass are set in the Kiddush service but only four used, ine always awaiting tge knock on the door by the messiah.

The whole dinner was a Passover meal so that it is hardly strange to see Jesus sipping from the fifth glass and markedly noting that he would do so again, on his second coming to dinner.

I also have long held that when Jesus said, "Drink this in remembering me," he wasn't implying a buddy-buddy relationship on the exact same night when they would all expressedly forget him, desert him, disavowel him, and flee from him.

It is my suspicion that he meant, the blood of Christ is on our hands and the hands of our children, all continuously guilty of the same sins he need sacrifice himself inmour place then, and still.

Rev. 16:6 For they have shed the blood of the saints, and the prophets, and thou hast given them blood (of The Eucharist) to drink; for they are worthy (of the guilt).