Thread: Eucharist and Cannibalism
May 12th 2004, 12:54 AM #46
Yes, I find them incompatible!Originally posted by goodygoody
May 12th 2004, 10:45 PM #47Originally posted by Jude3b
Offhand I do not see a difference in the 4 Gospels. Could you point the difference out to me?
May 13th 2004, 12:13 AM #48
Jude, you are partly right:
"Yes, I do find it incompatible for true Christians to remain apart of Roman Catholicism!"
Church attendence in Europe is down to 20%.
The current events of a revealed sexual magnet in this church for abusive priests is not indictive of a sudden and new modern tendency. The church has been sexual abusive for and throughout most ages, but the Reformatin has helped.
Nevertheless, there are many out of the @ one billion Catholics who have not defiled the tenets of Christianity.
Rev. 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis (the sociological religious community in the time of The Reformed Catholic Church) write; These things saith he that he that hath the seven Spirits of God, (the seven Freudian Archetypes) and the seven stars (Id, Libido, Ego, Anima, Self, Superego, and Harmony); I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest (a long established Church), and art dead (in sacramental doctrines lost in ancient dogma).
Rev. 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis (the time of The Reformed Catholic Church) which have not defiled their garments (with homosexulities and pedaphilia); and they shall walk with me in white (pages of scripture written anew): for they are worthy (in their reformations).
May 13th 2004, 01:50 AM #49
AnotherOriginally posted by goodygoody
May 13th 2004, 01:52 AM #50
Another Gospel means they do not have the Biblical Plan of Salvation
Romanism has a sacramentalism metod of salvation. That is Another Gospel and not what the Bible indicates is the Gospel.
May 13th 2004, 06:06 AM #51Originally posted by Jude3b
May 15th 2004, 12:51 PM #52
Sorry, I am not a Lutheran or ProtestantOriginally posted by goodygoody
Concerning all denomination however, I will state that sacraments do not save or add to salvation. Only Christ is the savior.
We are told that we must be "born again," for without this experience we are not Christians at all and "can not see the kingdom of God" (John 3:3)
May 15th 2004, 02:49 PM #53Originally posted by Jude3b
Of course, the interesting thing about the RCC is that many of the belivers do and say whatever they want to anyhow -- e.g. J F Kerry.
May 15th 2004, 03:18 PM #54
Rome states 7 sacraments are "necessary" to salvationOriginally posted by goodygoody
That is "another gospel" - a "false gospel" - JESUS CHRIST is the Way, the Truth and the Life. JESUS CHRIST alone is the door!
If we could be saved by 7 sacraments or by being a Roman Catholic, we would not need a savior!
May 15th 2004, 09:23 PM #55Originally posted by Jude3b
By the strict definition, one who protests against the RCC, you are.
Therefore, you are a Protestant."Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose.
You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart." — Steve Jobs
May 16th 2004, 01:24 PM #56
May 16th 2004, 04:30 PM #57
You must be born againOriginally posted by Jude3b
To be born again, my dear Roman Catholic friends, you must receive Jesus Christ by faith as your personal Savior and trust Him alone for your salvation. When you do this, you will be born into God's family, the bod of Christ - the church of God (see Acts 2:47): "But as many as received him, to them gave he powerr to become the sons of God, even to them tha believe on his name:" (John 1:12).
If you do that, you can claim this promise: "And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life." (I John 2:25)
Say good by Rome, come unto the Master, Lord and Savior - Jesus Christ. He is the only one who can save you!
June 28th 2004, 04:20 PM #58
Re: Eucharist and Cannibalism
If I may just add, when Catholics celebrate the Eucharist, the Consecration of the mass is initiated by the Invocation of the Spirit. Being a Trinitarian faith, when the Spirit of God enters the accidents of the sacrafice, we believe that God is truly present in the Eucharist and in partaking of it, we are receiving the living Spirit of God into our hearts and souls.
I know it's possible to assert that Matthew 26:29; "I will not drink from henceforth of this fruit of the vine" contradicts the possibility of receiving Chrsit's blood, but Luke, who is often more chronologically exact, places these words before Jesus' words "This is my body...This is my blood". (22:18)
I know it's a bit outdated, but I've only just joined and I dont think any one has stated this. Thanks.
June 28th 2004, 05:57 PM #59
Re: Another Gospel means they do not have the Biblical Plan of Salvation
(Very) Early Christians were often persecuted in Rome as cannibals because of their belief in drinking the blood and eating the body of Christ. Of course, I doubt you'll have the honesty to explore this subject, but just in case, do a quick search on "christian persecution cannibalism" and see that the imperial Romans had similar beliefs to yours.
June 28th 2004, 05:59 PM #60
Re: Eucharist and CannibalismOriginally posted by Kath
That Jesus said he would not drink from the cup again until he returns was avreference, as you know I am sure, to the ritual of Passover, where five wines glass are set in the Kiddush service but only four used, ine always awaiting tge knock on the door by the messiah.
The whole dinner was a Passover meal so that it is hardly strange to see Jesus sipping from the fifth glass and markedly noting that he would do so again, on his second coming to dinner.
I also have long held that when Jesus said, "Drink this in remembering me," he wasn't implying a buddy-buddy relationship on the exact same night when they would all expressedly forget him, desert him, disavowel him, and flee from him.
It is my suspicion that he meant, the blood of Christ is on our hands and the hands of our children, all continuously guilty of the same sins he need sacrifice himself inmour place then, and still.
Rev. 16:6 For they have shed the blood of the saints, and the prophets, and thou hast given them blood (of The Eucharist) to drink; for they are worthy (of the guilt)."To follow the rational meaning of Torah is not to adopt an ancient position and insist on silence there after.
That is not Empiricism.
The Scientific Method of Empiricism says that a comprehensive Hypothesis should guide our thinking, rather than the rigid dogma of ancient waves of traditional metaphysical religious interpretations that organized priesthoods use to sway society." Galilleo?
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