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  • #16
    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
    Did you want commentaries, greek references, overview of NT, overview of NT, pauline epistles, or eschatology?
    stuff that the layperson can use easily without having to know languages . Historical stuff would be good too....
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    • #17
      You might try An Introduction to the New Testament by Carson and Moo

      I was reading this:
      An Introduction to the New Testament: Contexts, Methods & Ministry Formation by deSilva

      And for Paul's writings I read:
      Rediscovering Paul by Capes and others

      These last two were a bit too basic for me but might be helpful to others. Also, these often emphasized New Perspective of Paul which may have messed up things as much as it helped.

      These all would require at least a knowledge of English.
      Last edited by mikewhitney; 08-14-2018, 03:32 PM.

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      • #18
        The New King James has New Testament notes regarding most of the variant readings of note. The foot note would have either NU or M or both.
        N is for the Nestle Aland Greek New Testament reading, the U is for the United Bible Society New Testament reading. The M is for what was being regarded as the Majority Greek text reading. One does not need to know Greek to use this.
        . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

        . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

        Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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        • #19
          I have appreciated the teaching of Steve Gregg. I've probably not heard the latest versions available now but suspect they are as similar to what he had taught before.

          http://www.thenarrowpath.com/

          The topical study on Isaiah was a big help to see the broad patterns going on.

          You can try printing the audio files if you like.
          Last edited by mikewhitney; 08-15-2018, 02:52 PM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
            You can try printing the audio files if you like.
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            • #21
              I have a parallel Bible with NIV and the Message. There are footnotes about variants in the NIV side. Message has none about the Johnanine Comma, but I do enjoy the different expression the Message gives.

              I would say every Christian must have a Bible with notes as discussed here, and perhaps some historical background as well.
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              • #22
                Thee, thy, thou and thine. Translations which use old English singular pronouns, are useful in that one does not need to know the Hebrew or the Greek to know the individual is being addressed and when the plural pronoun is being used.

                The ten commandments are addressed to the individual.

                The seven letters to the seven churches are addressed to each angel [messenger] of those churches.

                When Jesus addresses Nicodemus, addresses him as an individual, switches to plural when He says, "You must be born over." That everyone must be born over. See NIV note on this.
                . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

                . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

                Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DesertBerean View Post
                  I have a parallel Bible with NIV and the Message. There are footnotes about variants in the NIV side. Message has none about the Johnanine Comma, but I do enjoy the different expression the Message gives.
                  Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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