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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostCan the saints physically hear me? I doubt it. Can the Holy Spirit make it possible? I dare say yes. Further, I don't see time as a constraint in heaven. I don't know about you, but I don't consider praying for others "work". I am happy to do so.
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Since the vast majority of these abuse cases involve men with boys is this reasonable?
NEW YORK Allegations that disgraced ex-Cardinal Theodore McCarrick engaged in sex with adult seminarians have inflamed a long-running debate about the presence of gay men in the Roman Catholic priesthood.
Some conservatives are calling for a purge of all gay priests, a challenging task given that they are believed to be numerous and few are open about their sexual orientation. Moderates want the Church to eliminate the need for secrecy by proclaiming that gay men are welcome if they can be effective priests who commit to celibacy.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/20...y-priests.htmlAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostThe same applies to Christianity itself. Christianity would not have developed into the dominant force that it became had it not been promoted by the emperor Constantine and his successors from the fourth century onward...especially Theodosius I, who made it the Empire's sole authorised religion.
The Athanasian Creed is the authoritative statement against Trinitarian and Christological heresies in the Western Church.
ALL the creeds were written and accepted by the Church as the official statements of orthodoxy.
The development of the New Testament canon was a slow and gradual process and was based upon general acceptance and tradition...including by the Councils.
There are numerous pseudepigraphical works in the NT including several Pauline Epistles. And the authorship of the Gospels is not known.
The Shepherd of Hermas and many other scriptures may well have ended up as New Testament canonical texts, e.g. 1st Clement was included in several collections of Christian texts as was the Didache, which is one of the earliest texts that ultimately failed to make it into the canonical New Testament,Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostBut the Holy Spirit IS God, so you are saying you are praying to God, asking God to tell the saints to intercede with God for you?
Seems a bit of a roundabout way of doing things. And still, a saint that is interceding for thousands of people per day is going to be a really busy guy. And since the saint doesn't even know you, how is he supposed to intercede for you? "God, there is this guy, OBP, who asked me to ask you to grant him a favor"Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe Catholics are targeted because of the hatred the MSM has for them what with being so vocally against abortion and to a lesser extent gay marriage.
But the group that according to some studies has a higher rate of abusers among their ranks are teachers and coaches. You can hardly go a month without a scandal surfacing not too far away. And school administrators and boards used to deal with them pretty much the same way as the RCC did -- ship them off to another district or if they terminated them, conceal it so they could just move to another state and start doing the same thing all over again. I had several posts about this citing the studies back on the pre-crash Tweb.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYou're going to get crumbs on the floor!The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by seer View PostSince the vast majority of these abuse cases involve men with boys is this reasonable?
And yes, I saw that you said, "vast majority." I think the catholic church needs to re-examine it's position on celibacy, and it's psychological screening practices. Any institution that allows a disproportionate number of pedophiles into its ranks has some serious self-examination to do.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYou clearly have never seen me eat popcorn...
Eating popcorn. Always the same.I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostStart modestly, with a kernel or two, then before long I'm grabbing massive fistfuls of the stuff, trying to cram as many pieces of popcorn into my maw as humanly possible, without regard for the pieces that end up on my shirt....
Eating popcorn. Always the same.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by JimL View PostOh I see, it's the big bad MSM's fault again. Brainwashed much?
Off topic.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThere are gay people who are pedophiles - and there are straight people who are pedophiles. Although pedophilia keeps getting equated to homosexuality, they are distinct things. Many of the incidences in Pennsylvania involved priests with young girls. So if you're going to make an argument to purge all homosexuals, should you not also make the case to purge all heterosexuals, to remain consistent?
And yes, I saw that you said, "vast majority." I think the catholic church needs to re-examine it's position on celibacy, and it's psychological screening practices. Any institution that allows a disproportionate number of pedophiles into its ranks has some serious self-examination to do.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostWell no, the vast majority of cases involve men with boys, that is homosexual behavior.
ETA: BTW, this article is a bit dated, but provides some statistics. The personnel involved is about 4% of the Catholic clergy, which is disturbingly high. Outside the church, 1 in 5 girls reports being abused, but only 1 in 20 boys do. I have to admit there is an open question (for me) as to whether this is because that is the rate at which it actually happens, or if that is a reporting discrepancy (do boys report at a lower rate than girls?). Within the church, 80% of the reported abuse is of boys, with the majority being boys 14 and older and 15% being children under 10 years old.Last edited by carpedm9587; 08-20-2018, 11:53 AM.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostSo then the cases involving sex with girls, this is heterosexual behavior, correct?
ETA: BTW, this article is a bit dated, but provides some statistics. The personnel involved is about 4% of the Catholic clergy, which is disturbingly high. Outside the church, 1 in 5 girls reports being abused, but only 1 in 20 boys do. I have to admit there is an open question (for me) as to whether this is because that is the rate at which it actually happens, or if that is a reporting discrepancy (do boys report at a lower rate than girls?). Within the church, 80% of the reported abuse is of boys, with the majority being boys 14 and older and 15% being children under 10 years old.
Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostSo then the cases involving sex with girls, this is heterosexual behavior, correct?
ETA: BTW, this article is a bit dated, but provides some statistics. The personnel involved is about 4% of the Catholic clergy, which is disturbingly high. Outside the church, 1 in 5 girls reports being abused, but only 1 in 20 boys do. I have to admit there is an open question (for me) as to whether this is because that is the rate at which it actually happens, or if that is a reporting discrepancy (do boys report at a lower rate than girls?). Within the church, 80% of the reported abuse is of boys, with the majority being boys 14 and older and 15% being children under 10 years old.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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