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  • #16
    Thanks for the link Mountain Man, I can definitely access those.

    And I agree its bad form for Google especially to filter their searches in a politically biased way, and I'm not at all comfortable how easy it is to game their searches either way by users who know how to do it.

    But among all those rampant censorship claims some of it is really just some rat dens getting shut down, as neither Youtube or Reddit doesn't want to a platforms for the sharing of revenge porn, white supremacists materials, channels advocating violence or organising bullying campaigns, etc...

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    • #17
      Doing a search of "Trump News" on google returns a bunch of articles about "Debunking Donald Trump's latest conspiracy theory on Google" - all articles about how google is not stacking the results. The same search on Duck Duck Go, returns results like

      Trump News | Trump News

      Donald Trump: Latest News, Top Stories & Analysis - POLITICO

      Donald Trump | HuffPost
      Catch up on the latest news on Donald Trump. Including photos, videos and tweets.

      Donald Trump News - CNN
      The latest news on President Donald Trump, the White House and the first family.

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      • #18
        This is also interesting... it seems that Google had a very cozy relationship with the Obama White House. Make of that what you will.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #19
          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
          I've already mentioned it many times. You just dismiss it OBP. I don't really see the point in going over it again. To you the fact Trump Jr wanted to set up a back channel to Putin means nothing. To you the fact Trump called out to Russia for help with the Hillary emails and they responded means nothing. To you the fact that Trump is constantly in bed with Oligarchs and money launderers means nothing. To you the fact that Trump's campaign staff met with a Russian operative to get dirt on Hillary means nothing. The fact that Trump consistently 'believes' the words of Putin over our own intelligence community as to whether or not Russia tried to influence the election in Trumps favor means nothing. The fact that so many of Trumps campaign officials and even appointees (Flynn) have been convicted of crimes and face some the serious jail time means nothing. It just goes on and on OBP. Nothing trump does that is wrong, evil, shady, offensive, unpatriotic, treasonous in spirit means anything to you. You dismiss it all.

          Jim
          So your response is to hurl elephants, presenting bare assertions as facts, while further misrepresenting me.

          You are better than this, right?
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          I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            Doing a search of "Trump News" on google returns a bunch of articles about "Debunking Donald Trump's latest conspiracy theory on Google" - all articles about how google is not stacking the results. The same search on Duck Duck Go, returns results like

            Trump News | Trump News

            Donald Trump: Latest News, Top Stories & Analysis - POLITICO

            Donald Trump | HuffPost
            Catch up on the latest news on Donald Trump. Including photos, videos and tweets.

            Donald Trump News - CNN
            The latest news on President Donald Trump, the White House and the first family.
            Speaking of Trump news on Google.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #21
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              That could be because of TDS. The Left-Leaning MSM show up more because Trump is all they write about, especially CNN, so they have more Trump news articles than the right-wing news does, which probably spends more page space talking about the liberals and congress.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                That seems pretty darn conclusive.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #23
                  Prior to the 2008 election Google immediately shut down (as in not allowing them to advertise or appear in searches) a Hillary Clinton parody site saying that they do not allow such things as it may confuse voters. That of course brought forth questions of why they were allowing the same sort of parody sites that were targeting leading Republicans candidates seeking their party's nomination to advertise on Google for nearly two months.

                  Then of course there was this on Google just a week before the California primaries where they listed "Nazism" as the ideology of the California Republican party




                  They claim it wasn't their fault but it's hardly the only time



                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #24
                    I'm still suspicious that it might not just be user of Google gaming the system, but I wouldn't be surprised if Google themselves had been putting a thumb on the scale.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                      I'm still suspicious that it might not just be user of Google gaming the system, but I wouldn't be surprised if Google themselves had been putting a thumb on the scale.
                      Slate Magazine, hardly a hotbed of conservative thought recognized the reality of their bias and has their own interesting take: Why Google Search Results Favor Democrats. Not sure how valid their theory is but it is telling that even they've noticed the slant.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                        I'm still suspicious that it might not just be user of Google gaming the system, but I wouldn't be surprised if Google themselves had been putting a thumb on the scale.
                        I think it might be a bit of both. And as I said above, the Left MSM seems obsessed by Trump, so naturally you will get more results from Left sources when you search for Trump.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          Unfortunately correlation doesn't imply causation. And that really is my beef with this. The notion that because a search doesn't show what I want, somebody is manipulating the search engine. The search engine is designed to serve up what is most popular first. That means that if most people are looking for results about what Trump is doing wrong, that is what is going to come up at the top of the list. People can, as leanhard pointed out, game the system by doing things that skew the hit counts, making this or that rise of fall in importance. So there are then multiple reasons not many positive results for Tump come up:

                          1) There are not many positive articles out there.
                          2) The majority of people dislike trump and are only reading articles that reinforce that opinion
                          3) Trump supporters and detractors are out there gaming the system and trying to skew the results in their favor
                          4) The various news outlets themselves are out there gaming the system to increase their apparent readership and make add space on their sites worth more money

                          There may be more. But these are all much more likely explanations for the observations you are complaining about than that google itself is trying to skew the public's opinion of Donald Trump.


                          Jim
                          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            That could be because of TDS. The Left-Leaning MSM show up more because Trump is all they write about, especially CNN, so they have more Trump news articles than the right-wing news does, which probably spends more page space talking about the liberals and congress.
                            That is a perfectly reasonable explanation.


                            Jim
                            My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                            If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                            This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
                              Google search is 'Rigged' I tell ya, 'Rigged'.

                              What a nutcase.

                              https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/28/tec...ged/index.html

                              So The Conspiracy Theorist in Chief has now come out and said that Google search is rigged because it mostly points to bad news articles about him.

                              This can't be legal he says, and gosh darn it, he's going to do something about it!

                              So now our dictator wanna be doesn't like the fact that a search engine designed around statistical parameters that algorithmically determine what are the most commonly searched for or read hits to a give random search criteria tends to pull up bad news about him. And so it 'must be rigged' and he's going to see if he can force them to 'comply' and not do that.

                              Hmm, discounting the fact he couldn't understand how a google search algorithm works if you gave him 10 years to try to figure it out, there is nothing going on here that relates to google. It's like saying the fact a search on Superhero movies turns up more hits are Marvel Movies than DC movies means google search is rigged.

                              But what IS scary is he wants to try to punish google, to 'make it illegal'. Once again showing his 'Dictator wanna be' motivations and his complete lack of understanding of what are the standards, morals, and driving philosophies that made this nation the great nation it is.

                              Jim
                              I have never had a very high general opinion of Trump. My only support for Trump is to say he is far and away superior to Clinton. He can do a whole lot of dumb stuff before I will change my mind on that.
                              Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                                I have never had a very high general opinion of Trump. My only support for Trump is to say he is far and away superior to Clinton. He can do a whole lot of dumb stuff before I will change my mind on that.
                                fair enough.

                                Jim
                                My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                                If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                                This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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