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  • #16
    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    They have had the capability to 3D print an actual metal gun since 2013:

    world's first 3D printed metal gun successfully fires 50 bullets
    https://www.designboom.com/design/wo...ts-11-08-2013/

    And the blueprints for making an actual Colt 1911 pistol are all over the internet.
    Afghani tribesmen have been making respectable copies of firearms for centuries using the lost wax casting method. In recent decades they have produced fully automatic weapons.

    I'm always still in trouble again

    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      You can still find copies of the anarchist's cookbook online.
      One of the junk sources I had in mind.

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #18
        My local library offers 3D printing services for a nominal fee. I wonder what they would say to making a 3D printed gun for me?
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          My local library offers 3D printing services for a nominal fee. I wonder what they would say to making a 3D printed gun for me?
          The printers at your typical library are inadequate.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            Why is anyone worried about a plastic gun that will most likely explode in the shooter's face or only be good once, when any criminal can get a real unregistered gun in a back alley deal any time they want to? It's not like we are going to see a new swath of mass school shootings with plastic guns. At best they could take out one person (or two if it explodes in their face) before being beat to death by people around them.

            The only place I would be worried about plastic guns would be maybe hijackers or assassins (dumb ones) - but those types of people already have access to probably much better made plastic guns.
            two words: metal detectors
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #21
              I'd speculate that anybody who has the resources to print a 3-D gun would have no problem obtaining a non 3-D gun if they really wanted one.
              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                two words: metal detectors
                They'll still need several metal parts including the barrel of some sort.

                I remember when Glocks were being introduced awhile back and there was a great deal of hysteria about their being largely plastic and therefore "designed" to bypass metal detectors (as well as being called junk when in fact they're a superb line of handguns).

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  They'll still need several metal parts including the barrel of some sort.
                  The barrel is plastic.

                  Stop Freaking Out About 3D Printed Guns

                  The Liberator is almost entirely plastic, incorporates one metal piece in it so it can’t beat a metal detector (“follows the rules”), and has a magazine size of exactly one bullet. The barrel is made of plastic too, and imparts no ballistic improvements on the shot, so it’s basically a housing to hold a bullet still while you make it go boom. It’s garbage for a gun, roughly equivalent to holding a centerfire cartridge with a pair of vice grip pliers and hitting the firing pin with a leather punch. You would probably rather bring a knife to a gunfight than a Liberator.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    The barrel is plastic.

                    Stop Freaking Out About 3D Printed Guns

                    The Liberator is almost entirely plastic, incorporates one metal piece in it so it can’t beat a metal detector (“follows the rules”), and has a magazine size of exactly one bullet. The barrel is made of plastic too, and imparts no ballistic improvements on the shot, so it’s basically a housing to hold a bullet still while you make it go boom. It’s garbage for a gun, roughly equivalent to holding a centerfire cartridge with a pair of vice grip pliers and hitting the firing pin with a leather punch. You would probably rather bring a knife to a gunfight than a Liberator.
                    It's based on the WWII Liberator which were given to Resistance fighters (primarily) in France to be used to get a better weapon. Basically it was something you walked up to a lone German soldier shot him at extremely close range and took his rifle.

                    Source: FP-45 Liberator


                    The FP-45 was a crude, single-shot pistol designed to be cheaply and quickly mass-produced. It had just 23 largely stamped and turned steel parts that were cheap and easy to manufacture. It fired the .45 ACP pistol cartridge from an unrifled barrel. Due to this limitation, it was intended for short range use, 1–4 yards (1–4 m). Its maximum effective range was only about 25 feet (8 m). At longer range, the bullet would begin to tumble and stray off course. The original delivered cost for the FP-45 was $2.10/unit, lending it the nickname "Woolworth pistol". Five extra rounds of ammunition could be stored in the pistol grip.



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                    Last edited by rogue06; 08-29-2018, 04:31 AM.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #25
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        two words: metal detectors
                        The bullets are still metal, as probably is the firing pin.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                          The bullets are still metal, as probably is the firing pin.
                          The firing pin would probably not set off a metal detector, and there wouldn't necessarily be "bullets", plural.

                          The fear (and I don't hold this) was that somebody could get a "single use" weapon past security for an assassination attempt. The problem to me is that a professional doesn't need a gun - plastic or otherwise - to pull off an assassination.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            It's based on the WWII Liberator which were given to Resistance fighters (primarily) in France to be used to get a better weapon. Basically it was something you walked up to a lone German soldier shot him at extremely close range and took his rifle.
                            EGGzackly - single use for a very specific purpose.

                            And I posted the link "Stop Freaking Out About 3D Printed Guns" because I concur with the title.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              The firing pin would probably not set off a metal detector, and there wouldn't necessarily be "bullets", plural.

                              The fear (and I don't hold this) was that somebody could get a "single use" weapon past security for an assassination attempt. The problem to me is that a professional doesn't need a gun - plastic or otherwise - to pull off an assassination.
                              I could see some nutcase trying that. But unless he could get right up to the victim, a shot from that gun isn't going to work. It probably has a range of a couple of yards at most.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                                I could see some nutcase trying that. But unless he could get right up to the victim, a shot from that gun isn't going to work. It probably has a range of a couple of yards at most.
                                It is definitely an up close and personal weapon.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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