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  • #31
    Originally posted by seer View Post
    So you want Trump to stop being Trump?
    How about Trump being Trump but not being president?
    "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by seer View Post
      So you want Trump to stop being Trump?
      No, I just want him to mature.
      Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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      • #33
        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
        No, I just want him to mature.
        This blind, unswerving devotion to Trump is sickening.
        I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
          No, I just want him to mature.
          So you want Trump not to be Trump...
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
            This blind, unswerving devotion to Trump is sickening.
            On the other hand we knew what we were getting...
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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            • #36
              Originally posted by seer View Post
              So you want Trump not to be Trump...
              For once I completely agree with seer.
              "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by seer View Post
                So you want Trump not to be Trump...
                I want Trump to be a mature Trump. I like much of what he has accomplished, but I doubt the way he's gone about doing things is the only way he could've gotten that done (and think that he could've gotten MORE done if he'd approached things differently).
                Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by seer View Post
                  On the other hand we knew what we were getting...
                  Better the devil you know?
                  Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                  Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                  I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by seer View Post
                    On the other hand we knew what we were getting...
                    Evangelicals knew what they were getting yet still voted for him with the consequence that Trump's moral values will be forever associated with those of Evangelicals.
                    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                      Better the devil you know?
                      Better than the Clinton devil...
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                        Evangelicals knew what they were getting yet still voted for him with the consequence that Trump's moral values will be forever associated with those of Evangelicals.
                        Yep. And though they claim to have voted for him as the lesser of two evils, they are very reluctant to actually confront him when he does something they should obviously confront. In some areas he has given them what they want, and they seem to follow his ideal all the way: "The point is, you can never be too greedy". Thus the reluctance to actually confront him when he is wrong.
                        "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                          Evangelicals knew what they were getting yet still voted for him with the consequence that Trump's moral values will be forever associated with those of Evangelicals.
                          Only among those who already hated them and are constantly seeking yet another reason to do so

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            Only among those who already hated them and are constantly seeking yet another reason to do so
                            Well, these days you don’t need to look for reasons or be a hateful person in order to disagree with the evangelicals (or at least the evangelical Trump supporters). The fact that you think that is a preconditions says quite a lot about the moral crisis you are finding yourselves in. I have said to many evangelicals and will happily repeat that you should look for objective standards and stronger values instead of selling out. You know you have got something stronger than pointing your finger at Obama, Hillary or whomever whenever Trump does something really bad. You know this is not what Christianity is about. You know that your problem is not solved no matter have many times you call me a hypocrite, self righteous or whatever. I am sure you already have stronger values than what we are seeing. That is what bothers me the most about many Christians right now.
                            "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by seer View Post
                              Better than the Clinton devil...
                              My point was that Clinton was notoriously secretive about what she really wanted.
                              Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                              Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                              I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                Only among those who already hated them and are constantly seeking yet another reason to do so
                                Originally posted by Charles View Post
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                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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