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  • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    Given there is momentum building to impeach him from his current judicial position as a result of the perjury that has come to light, I think it would be interesting to see if there could be a push for impeachment from SCOTUS even after his confirmation.
    There was momentum building to impeach Obama, nothing happened because it was nothing more than some people who were either deluded and/or were just trying to make noise, which seems to be the case here.

    Besides that, no perjury has come to light. This seems to be based on alleged contradictions between documents and his statements, but as explained here, this is (1) almost certainly not perjury, and (2) even if it was, would be all but impossible to actually impeach for:
    https://www.vox.com/2018/9/7/1782932...earing-perjury
    https://twitter.com/DavidLat/status/1037818136349814784

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    • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      I'm thinking of Senator Tom Cotton's letter to the Iranian leadership telling them the US couldn't be trusted when Obama was trying to negotiate a denuclearization & peace treaty with them. The Logan act was indeed what most commentators at the time seemed to think was the most relevant.
      Then that's definitely not treason, because the US was most certainly not in active hostilities with Iran. They certainly didn't like each other much, but there was no actual war.

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      • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
        Like Woodward's book naming names and specifics, and guess what no one is suing Woodward.
        And yet they denied the assertions made in the book. Stuff that tells us what we want to hear, that is denied by the people named, is the best sort of evidence.
        "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
        GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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        • Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
          Then that's definitely not treason, because the US was most certainly not in active hostilities with Iran. They certainly didn't like each other much, but there was no actual war.
          Not only that, but the Logan Act has some questionable legal grounds to start with and has rarely been enforced.
          "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
          GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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          • I note that Rogue still has not provided anything but the claim that I am self righteous apart from his whataboutism. I have asked him to provide an absolute perspective on the family separations but it seems all he has got is relativism. Feel free to prove me wrong, Rogue. And allow me to help you a bit. Pointing to dirt from the past or calling me a hypocrite is not providing an absolute perspective. Are you a relativist, Rogue?

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            • I did come across a dumber-than-a-box-of-hammers statement made today by a nutter who somehow managed to get a PhD despite his crazy...


              So yes, there clearly are hamsters who somehow got PhDs. A bot that strung randomized words together could do better.
              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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              • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                I have you in the running for stupidest TWebber, so I'll obviously take your view under advisement.
                I've got a former member named Tercel at the top. I run an entire network for an agency of the US Government. I've passed the DoD's toughest security inspection with the highest grade they offer - a FIRST for my agency. I possess the toughest industry certification my industry offers and I passed it on the first try, which only 10% of people who take it have done. I kept a 4.0 GPA in college for both of my degrees. I'll take my industry expertise and intelligence over your writing articles any day.

                I have a PhD and have published peer-reviewed papers in more than one field, so considered as the sample-size-of-1 for liberalism, I would tend to say that liberals are abnormally bright.
                So you conned some professors and you write articles. Big deal. How about some practical stuff? What have you actually DONE?


                Is this the new conservative mantra about your views?
                Nope. Yours, baby killer.

                Frankly I don't think US conservative standards on most of those reach a standard I would call "selective"... more like absolute intolerance, completely against diversity, unrelenting hate and anger and fear, full discrimination, and a pathological need for safe spaces from other views.
                You just described the entire post-high school liberal utopia called college. And your own views.

                Methinks the projection is strong with this one. The entire world is gobsmacked by the disgrace on display for all to see that is the current state of US conservatism, and I'm the disgrace. Riiiigggghhhttt.
                The entire world is not speaking Japanese or German or Russian because of the Conservative USA. That the rest of the world is desperate to come here proves that the rest of the world isn't so great...
                That's what
                - She

                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                  And yet they denied the assertions made in the book. Stuff that tells us what we want to hear, that is denied by the people named, is the best sort of evidence.
                  Of course, they are denied. As far as tRump is concerned everybody else are liars including ALL the women that say they have been his bed mate, and accuse him of inappropriate behavior.

                  Ahh . . . I see no law suits against Woodward concerning his book, just bluff and bluster threatening to blow his house down.

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                  • Originally posted by Charles View Post
                    I note that Rogue still has not provided anything but the claim that I am self righteous apart from his whataboutism. I have asked him to provide an absolute perspective on the family separations but it seems all he has got is relativism. Feel free to prove me wrong, Rogue. And allow me to help you a bit. Pointing to dirt from the past or calling me a hypocrite is not providing an absolute perspective. Are you a relativist, Rogue?
                    No. But you are certainly a pompous little snot who pretends to care about this and other topics but your posts repeatedly demonstrate that the only thing you care about is trying to exploit them so you can attack those you disagree with and nothing else

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      So yes, there clearly are hamsters who somehow got PhDs.
                      If you truly do have one, you're living proof!
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        No. But you are certainly a pompous little snot who pretends to care about this and other topics but your posts repeatedly demonstrate that the only thing you care about is trying to exploit them so you can attack those you disagree with and nothing else
                        So another personal attack. Whataboutism and personal attacks seem to be all you can provide. How do my posts demonstrate I do not really care about the children? If you could please answer that question without personal attacks and whataboutism... Because you did not just make the claim in order to avoid having to confront the real moral issue?

                        And don't forget: Even if I am a hypocrite that does nothing to change the fact that you still have not provided anything but whataboutism, relativism and personal attacks. You must have something more, right?
                        Last edited by Charles; 09-08-2018, 10:03 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by Charles View Post
                          How do my posts demonstrate I do not really care about the children?
                          A) Please provide proof that you were this upset about the situation when it was happening under Obama.
                          2) Please tell us what you are actually doing about the problem besides using the situation to attack conservatives.

                          Thanks
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Anonymous Op-Eds are always the most trustworthy.
                            Or as Trump calls them, anomous, anomyus. This isn't the first time he was seen slurring his words. The guy is obviously on some kind of drug.

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                            • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                              I was amazed to see this cross my news feed. It was apparently written by a senior White House staffer, clearly a Republican (I'm pretty sure Trump completely abandoned the practice of having opposition members in his staff and on his cabinet - loyalty and all that), and one who makes a clear distinction between policies and behavior. I wish it were possible for them to identify themselves, because I'm reasonably sure this will simply be dismissed as "fake news" by Trump supporters and defenders. Clearly, however, it's not possible to continue to guide/resist if you are not in the position any longer.

                              Though I disagree with some of the policies described as "good for America," that is how America works - sometimes the opposing party is in power and policies you disagree with are enacted. What I have long been more concerned about is the erosion and damage Trump does by his force of personality and lack of management ability ("Apprentice" not withstanding). Time after time we hear reports of a highly unstable White House environment, most recently from Woodward's book. We have seen his admiration for dictators and strongmen, and his horrendous treatment of long-term allies and friends. It is good to know there is a force in place that is containing him to some degree.
                              I don't mind the person speaking out, but I'm not sure how to think about it. I don't like the idea of moles in the White House in general, but then on the other hand, had it not been for Deep Throat, the mole in the Nixon White House, we would never have uncovered the criminal activity of Nixon and his administration.
                              I don't think that Trump is being very smart in trying to out this person though, because when and if he does, I'm sure he'll have a whole lot more to say about Trump and his administration, and it won't be good.
                              Last edited by JimL; 09-08-2018, 12:22 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                A) Please provide proof that you were this upset about the situation when it was happening under Obama.
                                2) Please tell us what you are actually doing about the problem besides using the situation to attack conservatives.

                                Thanks
                                I did not post in here when Obama was president. It is a poor debate tactic on your side to continue to pretend I did. Neither am I a Obama supporter which I have told repeatedly. I wonder why all of this is so hard to grasp.

                                I hold the view that what you do to help those in need is not something you brag about.

                                And the claim was my posts demonstrated I do not really care. Please show how.

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