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  • The more we progress, the less we evolve

    Evolution is all about survival of the fittest, for the betterment of the species. With modern medicine, the goal is "everyone survives as long as possible, no matter what their fitness".* The Progressive set, which likes to think of itself as the smartest, has the lowest birth rate, while those they regard as backward cretins multiply like rabbits. The normalization of couples which inherently cannot procreate doesn't help, either.



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  • #2
    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Evolution is all about survival of the fittest, for the betterment of the species.
    No, evolution is understood not to be goal oriented.
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    • #3
      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
      No, evolution is understood not to be goal oriented.
      True - but it is ostensibly the end result nonetheless; when the fittest survive, the species as a whole is... more fit.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
        Evolution is all about survival of the fittest, for the betterment of the species. With modern medicine, the goal is "everyone survives as long as possible, no matter what their fitness".* The Progressive set, which likes to think of itself as the smartest, has the lowest birth rate, while those they regard as backward cretins multiply like rabbits. The normalization of couples which inherently cannot procreate doesn't help, either.



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        *provided one successfully exits the birth canal intact, that is.
        Evolution is about how environments act on populations. If the environment protects stupid people who breed stupid children then the population will become stupider over time. It’s like farming; you select breeding animals having the traits you want to make more abundant.
        “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
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        • #5
          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
          No, evolution is understood not to be goal oriented.
          But those who procreate more tend to be the winners.
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
            Evolution is all about survival of the fittest, for the betterment of the species.
            No, it is not. That is a caricature of evolution, not a characterization.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
              but it is ostensibly the end result nonetheless; when the fittest survive, the species as a whole is... more fit.
              That is what happens. It doesn't mean the process has any goal. You are conflating outcome with purpose.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by seer View Post
                But those who procreate more tend to be the winners.
                That's what it means by being the fittest, but the concept that it has a goal (an end result or target in mind) is not part of evolutionary theory however theistic evolutionists tend to disagree since we believe it is directed by God.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                  True - but it is ostensibly the end result nonetheless; when the fittest survive, the species as a whole is... more fit.
                  "Fittest" has a different meaning in evolutionary biology.
                  Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                  MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                  MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                    Evolution is all about survival of the fittest,
                    True...
                    for the betterment of the species.
                    False. Evolution doesn't have any goal, nor does it have any concept of better/worse species.
                    With modern medicine, the goal is "everyone survives as long as possible, no matter what their fitness".
                    You think that keeping people alive is a bad thing?
                    The normalization of couples which inherently cannot procreate doesn't help, either.
                    You think acknowledging reality is a bad thing?
                    Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                    MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                    MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                    seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Roy View Post
                      "Fittest" has a different meaning in evolutionary biology.
                      Well it was Herbert Spencer who coined the term, so what did he say it means:

                      "This survival of the fittest, which I have here sought to express in mechanical terms, is that which Mr. Darwin has called 'natural selection', or the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life."
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by seer View Post
                        Well it was Herbert Spencer who coined the term, so what did he say it means:

                        "This survival of the fittest, which I have here sought to express in mechanical terms, is that which Mr. Darwin has called 'natural selection', or the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life."
                        Herbert Spencer has been dead for a hundred and twenty years. In seer-world, so it seems, that’s like yesterday.
                        “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                        “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                          Herbert Spencer has been dead for a hundred and twenty years. In seer-world, so it seems, that’s like yesterday.
                          What's your cutoff date for quoting things?


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Roy View Post
                            "Fittest" has a different meaning in evolutionary biology.
                            Generally people tend to equate it to the biggest, baddest and strongest. What it means is who/what is best adapted to their environment to leave the most offspring. And that can mean who/what is the best at hiding, running away or even cooperating with other members of their species.

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                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                              What's your cutoff date for quoting things?
                              4 AM Tuesday

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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