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Originally posted by 37818
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1. You conflate the doctrine of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist with the doctrine known as "transubstantiation", and you declare it a "damnable heresy".
2. You presume yourself a judge of the salvation of others in the place of God, declaring those who do not hold to your doctrines as "the lost".
3. You declare that salvation is not a matter of works, in stark contrast to what is made clear in the words of Christ Himself.
Errors 1 & 2
Transubstantiation refers to a specific understanding of the doctrine of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, i.e., the theory that the bread and wine are transformed into the body and blood of Christ at the words of the priest. Meanwhile, the doctrine of the Real Presence has been taught and upheld in the Church from the beginning, and it was the gnostics who denied the Real Presence since they viewed the physical body to be sinful and thus they deny the physical incarnation of Christ as well as the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.
Many more examples I can give of the Church having taught the importance of the doctrine of the Real Presence through the centuries, and why it is denied by the heretics. Who do you think you are to call something which you are ignorant about a "damnable heresy"?
Error 3
While it is true that works alone cannot obtain salvation for us, and works without faith are dead works, yet even faith without works is dead, as declared by St James in his Epistle (James 2:17), and he continues, saying that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone (verse 24). What then are the words of our Lord on works and salvation? Many!
You see then that in so many places, Christ made clear that faith alone cannot save anyone, for you are judged not only by your faith, but by your works.
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